The Consequence of Sin - The Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ByLoSellHi, May 21, 2009.

  1. Genesis 13:12-13, Genesis 18:16-33, and Genesis 19:1-26

    “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10

    http://www.bethelcampusfellowship.org/bible-study/2007/10/28/lessons-from-soddom-and-gomorrah/
     

  2. Isn't that what humans always do whenever disasters happen? They try to pretend that if they had only done something different the disaster would not have happened. This gives them a false sense of control and also exagerates their importance in the world. Here are a few examples.

    Soddom and Gomorrah gets destroyed so the answer is, "well, there were a bunch of sinners there. God destroyed those cities to punish them for their sins. If only they hadn't been sinners."

    New Orleans gets destroyed in a hurricane "Well this hurricane happened because of global warming, if only we hadn't driven so many miles, this would have never happened"


    Asian Tsunami. Same reason as Soddom and Gomorrah as well as punishment for the people in Indonesia for being Muslim.

    These are only a few examples that have happened over the last few years. The list is endless.

    The fact of the matter is, we have no control over the natural environment which we live, and from time to time disasters are going to happen and we have absolutely no control over them and no ability to prevent them. Say as many prayers as you want, change your behavior any way you want, but it will not change a thing. We are neither powerful enough, or important enough to change the outcome.
     
  3. I wasn't endorsing a position so much as providing fodder for vigorous debate.

    The book that Jews and a primary book that Christians rely upon specifically mentions 'homosexuality' and 'sodomy' as mortal sins.
     
  4. It's like inmates in an insane asylum deciding what constitutes real insanity. Write it down and add hundreds of years and thousands of repetitions and it magically becomes the truth. And yet, it doesn't make the scribes any less crazy than they were when they convened to judge what is crazy.
     
  5. I never quite understood a lot of the things that they claim are sins. I have always though the ten commandments were the ten things you weren't supposed to do. These were the 10 sins. I don't see where homosexuality or sodomy fits in. Now granted you could apply some of the things to the 10 commandments, others you can not.

    For instance, a lot of people say gambling is a sin. I don't really see anything wrong with it. What does the ten commandments have to say about it? You might be able to say that gambling is driven by greed which is 'Coveting thy neighbors goods' which is a sin by the ten commandments. In some cases it is, in a lot of cases gambling has nothing to do with greed, it is simply entertainment. I would have to believe that a decent percentage of people know that the odds are rigged against them, so they are not playing out of greed. They are playing for fun, and hey, maybe you will get lucky and win. There is another group of idiots who think they can actually win and don't get it, but hey thats their fault. In the case of gambling maybe the moral dilemma comes from the casino owner who is taking advantage of the idiot who doesn't realize the chips are stacked against them. Another deal is people don't consider stocks to be gambling. It is not gambling for all market participants but some traders are doing nothing more gambling. Without a doubt.

    One additional thought on gambling is the intellecual challenge. I enjoy playing poker because I like trying to devise a strategy where I can beat another player or group of players. The money is secondary.
     
  6. Remember that God supposedly hates shrimp, lobster and other forms of shellfish too. The very same book containing the often cited verse about gays says it is an abomination to consume anything other than fish from the water. Some fundamentalists conveniently forget that. I enjoy reminding them whenever possible :).

    Leviticus 18:22 says:
    22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

    Leviticus 11:9-12 says:
    9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
    10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
    11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
    12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.
     
  7. It's like inmates in an insane asylum deciding what constitutes real insanity.
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    ha, not only the inmates but the people who work with them. As deviant behaviour becomes "normalized" ( mainstreaming the dsyfunctional) seems everyone from the top down, redefines insanity.

    The schizo only pushed one person in front of the train, they all do, don't they? Get used to it. We are looking to lock up the really bad schizo's.
     
  8. What kind of sick fuck wanna stick their dick into another man's ass? Thus, Sodom and Gomorroh is justified. Let them go to hell
     
  9. This is a serious question, so don't think it's not, and balk, or run for cover:

    What do you think the reaction of the first male 'receiver' was when some dude stuck his wang up that guys ass?
     
  10. jem

    jem

    We are learning it is dangerous hanging around swine. If we did not eat them there would be less contact.

    those sea creatures without fins frequently cause sickness. When I lived on the east coast they were always waring

    Sodomy seems to carry with some serious risk to your health as well.
     
    #10     May 23, 2009