The Coming Bear Trap

Discussion in 'Trading' started by calibertrader, Mar 19, 2007.

Bull or Bear?

Poll closed Mar 26, 2007.
  1. Bull

    20 vote(s)
    23.3%
  2. Neutral

    35 vote(s)
    40.7%
  3. Bear

    31 vote(s)
    36.0%
  1. blast19

    blast19

    I agree. I believe the beginning 10-20% was the subprimes. Next is Alt-A which I just posted a link to a CNN report on...this is where the big boys get stung.

    http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/19/news/economy/next_subprime/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote

    Now those numbers are scary and the fear alone could trigger a rash of stagnation and lack of buying/rush to sell at lower prices.

    We'll have to wait and see, but I think these Alt-A loans are going to do real damage.
     
    #41     Mar 19, 2007
  2. Look at the risk/reward profile now.

    Look at the run the indices have had since July of last year.

    Consider that earnings are slowing.

    Add in the housing woes (not just mortgage woes, but housing woes, which relate to everything appliance sales to equity/liquidity).

    I think the risk/reward profile has changed substantially and that the media headlines are catching up to this change.

    But I am an admitted bear right now, mostly sidelined, getting a certain fixed return on my money that while not thrilling me, at least is letting me sleep more easily.

    I do not think the media is over-reporting the bad in terms of qualitative reporting.
     
    #42     Mar 19, 2007
  3. Even though the media wants to get ahead of the story and predict the worst, they seem to be under orders to try and calm the public at the same time. To me, it smells fishy.

    The other reason I am so bearish at this point, I have more setups looking like dead cat bounces then good intermediate longs. Typically when this occurs on my screens, there is more room to the downside.
     
    #43     Mar 19, 2007
  4. The action in the ndx the last couple of weeks is laughable. Look at the volume today.
     
    #44     Mar 19, 2007
  5. S2007S

    S2007S

    nasdaq volume is pathetic.....


    1,124,650,000 as of 2:15pm.
     
    #45     Mar 19, 2007
  6. Yes, it is. Let's get the indexes to rally to the 50DMA over the next week or two and then the short raid can begin.:mad:
     
    #46     Mar 19, 2007
  7. Moderator - Can you change the Bear in the title of this thread to Bull.

    Thanks
     
    #47     Mar 19, 2007
  8. I'm still puzzled why anyone would TRADE off of volume.
    My clearing firm only PAYS ME based on PRICE!
    You still don't get it.

    SPX now 40 handles off the lows, and you are still LOOKING for things to be "negative" about. Meanwhile, you have missed a HUGE move!

    Amazing.

    :D
     
    #48     Mar 19, 2007
  9. S2007S

    S2007S



    Go back and look at the volume after the FEB 27th drop, the markets rallied and everyone thought the markets were back on there way to new highs because everything was all fine and good again.

    If you can look back and see the declining volume you would have known that the market rally was just a head fake. Look at the volume again today, nice rallies across the board yet volume is anemic.
     
    #49     Mar 19, 2007

  10. Couldn't agree more -- I believe 1 month from now we are significantly higher... after that I don't know.
     
    #50     Mar 19, 2007