The Border Crisis on Steroids

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Mar 14, 2021.

  1. Yup. But the other thing I see happening is that some of these places are like the cell phone parking areas at many airports. Where you park and wait for your arriving family or buddies to arrive and then they arrive and you pull up and pick them up.

    Biden crows about reducing the number of people in custody but he accomplishes that by just telling them to come in and keep moving. Your contacts can pick you up and take you to New Haven or Peoria or we will deliver you there.

    It's bullfeathers. All of it.
     
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    #381     Aug 7, 2021
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  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    It's fairly simple really. If you take the per capita positivity rate for mexico:

    upload_2021-8-7_20-9-54.png

    apply a 3x fudge factor:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino...toll-estimated-600000-new-study-finds-rcna869

    and

    compare it to the USA's (we'll be generous and assume we're not underreporting lolz):

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    you end up with:

    1.3M active cases vs America's 6M active cases, and 66k/1M positivity vs 110k/1M.

    So in reality, immigrants are making our per capita numbers better, not worse.

    Enjoy your "brown man bad" scapegoating.
     
    #382     Aug 7, 2021
  3. ph1l

    ph1l

    If I wrote an opinion that migrants are causing the spikes, I was wrong. But of course I wrote "contributing to the spread" (and presented evidence) which is not pronounced "causing the spikes" in human language (maybe it is in grumpy cat language:)).
     
    #383     Aug 7, 2021
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  4. Wallet

    Wallet

    How would anyone actually know the percentage of covid-positive illegal aliens crossing our border, the one’s that slip through undetected or the ones just let in, untested and shipped off to who knows where in the US.
     
    #384     Aug 7, 2021
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  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Seeing how they're trekking outside, well aware of a pandemic and doing so w/some sort of mouth covering, forcing themselves to physical exertion, I'd imagine many symptomatic don't make it too far. There's no telling to what happens once cooped up en masse in our detention centers though.

    In any case, blaming Delta spread on border immigrants remains asinine. The Mexico, Peru, or even Brazil variants, sure.

    https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global

     
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    #385     Aug 8, 2021
  6. They don't know, they're speculating. It's okay for the to speculate and pass it off as fact. Don't you do it or you're racist and a conspiracy theorist. So they speculate a million illegal aliens a month are of no consequence to Covid spikes, increase in drug overdoses, increase in crime, or anything else. I speculate that they contribute in a major way to all of the above. Of course my speculation is based on logic and common sense, theirs on denial of anything which doesn't fit the leftist narrative.
     
    #386     Aug 8, 2021
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles


    fact: Undocumented immigrants have far lower criminality than gen pop:

    https://www.policefoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Appendix-D_0.pdf
    https://www.pnas.org/content/117/51/32340
    https://news.wisc.edu/undocumented-immigrants-far-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-in-u-s-than-citizens/

    fact: Drug use among undocumented immigrants lowest:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...o-be-arrested-for-drugs-alcohol-idUSKBN1AO2EC
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4211337/

    fact: No evidence undocumented immigrants are significantly impacting COVID numbers:

    https://apnews.com/article/public-h...-immigration-74eba36e8cd2f842987c0e6e57bcfae1
     
    #387     Aug 8, 2021

  8. So you are saying it is not an indisputable fact because no one can say for certain...that was my whole point...
     
    #388     Aug 8, 2021
  9. Fact: all your sources are dated and unreliable.
    Fact: Criminal illegals selling drugs are causing the rise in overdoses
    Fact: Millions of illegals pouring over the border, tens of thousands Covid positive at the exact same time case counts go up is a direct link between them and the spike in cases.
    Fact: thinking otherwise is delusional.
     
    #389     Aug 8, 2021
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Fact: you post no sources for your delusions
    Fact: you don't know what a fact is
     
    #390     Aug 8, 2021