The Bible isn't the original source of American law

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by dbphoenix, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    You'll remember that the religious right likes to stick its fingers in its ears and sing LaLaLa.

    Should I point out the lack of evidence that Moses even existed? Probably not.
     
    #71     Sep 16, 2014
  2. jem

    jem

    1. I already responded to that question... I gave you blackstone and the U.S. supreme court bulding itself... I asked you for authorities with weight and you produced none... Its almost as if you leftists don't comprehend why one has or did have to swear an oath on the bible in every courtroom in america.

    2. I just told you I am now responding to stu's question...

    I knew you were projecting when you posted that crap about perceptual filters... you do not even acknowledge the basic fact... I responded to Stu.




     
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    #72     Sep 16, 2014
  3. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    And I responded with all the other religious figures, including Hammurabai, who are portrayed there, all of whom are noted in the article.

    Authorities? Trying scanning the Constitution with Ctrl+F and look for references to the Bible or the 10C.

    As for swearing an oath on the bible, what does that have to do with the Constitution?
     
    #73     Sep 16, 2014
  4. Well, here you go. You're making my point about zealots, and missing it about everything else. Your anti-religion bias is so completely overwhelming you cannot see the facts when they are clearly presented to you. The Founders were trying to strike a balance. They, unlike yourself, knew that religion isn't all good or bad, not simply black and white, and neither is secularism. Rational people see the need for some of both.
     
    #74     Sep 16, 2014
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  5. jem

    jem

    all you do is throw up straw men.
    No one stated the constitution contained the 10 commandments.

    and arguing there were other influences includin hammurabi's is not the issue and no one denies there are other influences.

    to get back to the point... the bible is the source of much of the laws in our judeo christian tradition of laws. as it was the foudation for courts of equity and a large part of common law.

    honoring contracts... not bearing false witness, not harming people, not killing or murdering or stealing is the bedrock of our legal system.

    now if you wish to claim that biblical foundation is not really biblical have at it.




     
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    #75     Sep 16, 2014
  6. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    And people who can't read.
     
    #76     Sep 16, 2014
  7. jem

    jem

    for leftists who did not read to this... I will post this again.
    9 of 13 colonies not only had all sorts of ties to belief in God... they had established churches.

    last time I checked, according to both hands and feet... that is a majority.





    http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/2011/06/did-america-have-a-christian-founding

    An extensive survey of early colonial constitutions and laws reveals many similar provisions. As well, at least nine of the 13 colonies had established churches, and all required officeholders to be Christians—or, in some cases, Protestants. Quaker Pennsylvania, for instance, expected officeholders to be “such as possess faith in Jesus Christ.”[12][/quote]
     
    #77     Sep 16, 2014
  8. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    You're really not concerned about the topic of this thread, are you?
     
    #78     Sep 16, 2014
  9. jem

    jem

    I wrote this...


    ..."to get back to the point... the bible is the source of much of the laws in our judeo christian tradition of laws. as it was the foundation for courts of equity and a large part of common law.

    honoring contracts... not bearing false witness, not harming people, not killing or murdering or stealing is the bedrock of our legal system.

    now if you wish to claim that biblical foundation is not really biblical have at it."



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    then you db trolled out some out of context comment.
     
    #79     Sep 16, 2014
  10. stu

    stu

    What balance exactly? They excluded religion itself from being the basis on which law is made or judged. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion -in all real and practical sense and purposes, that excludes any religion from establishing itself in law or government and quite rightly too, both for the religiously inclined and everyone else's sake.

    That is the very definition of secular law and it is the effective balance as the Founders very wisely knew.
     
    #80     Sep 16, 2014