The Bern Identity

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jan 18, 2016.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-post-univision-democratic-debate-annotated/


    SALINAS: Let's continue with another question, Senator, if you don't mind.

    SANDERS: Sure. SALINAS: In 1985, you praised the Sandinista government and you said that Daniel Ortega was an impressive guy. This is what you said about Fidel Castro. Let's listen.

    (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
    SANDERS: You may recall way back in, when was it, 1961, they invaded Cuba, and everybody was totally convinced that Castro was the worst guy in the world. All the Cuban people were going to rise up in rebellion against Fidel Castro. They forgot that he educated their kids, gave them health care, totally transformed their society.

    (END VIDEOTAPE)

    SALINAS: In South Florida there are still open wounds among some exiles regarding socialism and communism. So please explain what is the difference between the socialism that you profess and the socialism in Nicaragua, Cuba and Venezuela.

    SANDERS: Well, let me just answer that. What that was about was saying that the United States was wrong to try to invade Cuba, that the United States was wrong trying to support people to overthrow the Nicaraguan government, that the United States was wrong trying to overthrow in 1954, the government -- democratically elected government of Guatemala.

    Throughout the history of our relationship with Latin America we've operated under the so-called Monroe Doctrine, and that said the United States had the right do anything that they wanted to do in Latin America. So I actually went to Nicaragua and I very shortly opposed the Reagan administration's efforts to overthrow that government. And I strongly opposed earlier Henry Kissinger and the -- to overthrow the government of Salvador Aliende (ph) in Chile.

    I think the United States should be working with governments around the world, not get involved in regime change. And all of these actions, by the way, in Latin America, brought forth a lot of very strong anti-American sentiments. That's what that was about.

    SALINAS: Senator, in retrospect, have you ever regretted the characterizations that you made of Daniel Ortega and Fidel Castro that way?

    SANDERS: I'm sorry. Please say that...

    SALINAS: In retrospect, have you ever regretted the characterizations of Daniel Ortega and Fidel Castro that you made in 1985?

    SANDERS: The key issue here was whether the United States should go around overthrowing small Latin American countries. I think that that was a mistake...

    SALINAS: You didn't answer the question.

    SANDERS: ...both in Nicaragua and Cuba. Look, let's look at the facts here. Cuba is, of course, an authoritarian undemocratic country, and I hope very much as soon as possible it becomes a democratic country. But on the other hand...


    (APPLAUSE)

    ...on the other hands, it would be wrong not to state that in Cuba they have made some good advances in health care. They are sending doctors all over the world. They have made some progress in education. I think by restoring full diplomatic relations with Cuba, it will result in significant improvements to the lives of Cubans and it will help the United States and our business community invest.


    SALINAS: Thank you, Senator. Your time is up on that.
     
    #771     Apr 27, 2016
  2. I don't support Bernie at all, but I'm confused by his strategy at Hillary. How come he does't shove all scandal allegations down her and the medias throat! Does he really want to win? Is this the "dignity" politicians are supposed to have that I keep hearing about from people? Dignity is helping him lose his ass!
     
    #772     Apr 28, 2016
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    Because the real insiders know there is not really enough scandal there. For example, a dozen commissions into Benghazi (Benghazi!), bi-partisan and partisan, and yet... nothing.
     
    #773     Apr 28, 2016
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    It's kinda hard to make headway when the Department of Justice is running interference for the other team.
     
    #774     Apr 28, 2016
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Wait, what? He's laying off workers? Shouldn't he keep paying them even though he doesn't have work for them?
     
    #775     Apr 28, 2016
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    If it wasn't them it would be the leftwing media. The right just can't catch a break.
     
    #776     Apr 28, 2016
  7. The name of the game is to discredit your opponent as much as possible...even if there's nothing to it...and especially if you're losing!
     
    #777     Apr 28, 2016
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Well said! The past seven years have been strong proof of that.
     
    #778     Apr 28, 2016
  9. And paying them a living wage.

    In fairness, this is the first time he's had to deal with things like making a payroll.
     
    #779     Apr 28, 2016
  10. nitro

    nitro

    The level of your intellectual dishonesty is reaching a fever pitch.

    See if you can see that he eats his own dog food:

    • Bernie Sanders didn't outsource the running of his campaign to Mexico or Vietnam or China
    • Bernie Sanders pays his staffers far more than minimum wage
    • Bernie Sanders takes no money from corporations or special interests to pay his staff. It is all backed by We the People
    • Bernie, by his very actions believes that workers are hired and let go as needed. He has never once said let's keep workers working when there is no work. He says, let's create jobs here so that having to lay off our workers is minimized to the lowest possible level in a free market economy.
    • There is no contradiction.
     
    #780     Apr 28, 2016
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