The Bern Identity

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jan 18, 2016.

  1. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Good summary.

    I think that he makes a good point regarding the history of socialism and communism. I have also made similar points previously on this forum and others.

    Every single time throughout history a socialist government has turned into a dictatorship, oligarchy or an aristocracy given enough time. The promise is always this time it will be different.

    You can see examples of oligarchies at all of the unions in the United States.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2016
    #731     Apr 18, 2016
  2. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Here is a partial list of 2014 total pay to some of the oligarchs :

    Name Total Pay, 2014 Union
    William Trent $1,132,607 Independent Pilot Association
    Donald Moak $825,539 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Jay Roth $824,475 Directors Guild Of America Inc
    Ed Power $697,714 Boilermakers AFL-CIO
    Gary Voice $680,721 State County & Muni Empls AFL-CIO Local Union 3930
    Terence O’Sullivan $670,403 Laborers
    Newton Jones $639,034 Boilermakers AFL-CIO
    David P. White $586,079 SAG-AFTRA
    John Niccollai $579,828 Food & Commercial Wkrs Local Union 464
    Peter Hasho $574,501 Int’l Brotherhood Of Trade Unions
    Robert Scardelletti $564,194 Transportation Communications Union/Iam, AFL-CIO
    Rhonda Weingarten $557,875 Teachers AFL-CIO
    Armand Sabitoni $556,140 Laborers
    William Mcdonough $544,137 Food & Commercial Wkrs
    Dennis Van Roekel $541,632 National Education Assoc.
    William Hite $522,988 Plumbers AFL-CIO
    Harold Daggett $515,901 Longshoremens Assoc. AFL-CIO
    David Young $512,026 Writers Guild West
    Joseph Maloney $501,392 Boilermakers AFL-CIO
    Jonathan Cohen $498,255 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    T Warren Fairley, Jr. $493,007 Boilermakers AFL-CIO
    Bruce York $489,852 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Kelly Richardson $489,330 Air Traffic Controllers AFL-CIO
    James Callahan $488,377 Engineers, Operating, AFL-CIO
    J Tom Baca $483,779 Boilermakers AFL-CIO
    Joseph Nigro $479,268 Sheet Metal, Air, Rail And Transportation Workers
    Lori Ames $467,010 United Service Workers Union, IUJAT
    Edward Byrne Sr $462,057 United Service Workers Union, IUJAT
    Matthew Loeb $459,616 Stage & Picture Operators AFL-CIO
    Joseph Sellers $459,184 Sheet Metal, Air, Rail And Transportation Workers
    Douglas J Mccarron $455,102 Carpenters
    Stephen Knott $452,565 Longshoremens Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Richard Johnson $449,716 Transportation Communications Union/Iam, AFL-CIO
    Benny Holland Jr $440,759 Longshoremens Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Joseph Mancinelli $439,072 Laborers
    Lori Garver $438,167 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Jean Bruny $435,845 Food & Commercial Wkrs Local Union 888
    William Roberts $435,377 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Mark Mcmanus $434,735 Plumbers AFL-CIO
    Terrence Healy $432,918 Laborers
    Paul Rinaldi $428,408 Air Traffic Controllers AFL-CIO
    Lawrence Mcmanamon $420,733 Boilermakers AFL-CIO
    Stephen Kelly $420,552 Plumbers AFL-CIO
    Frank Bail $420,206 Retail Wholesale, Dc, Ufcw Local Union 1102
    Edwin Hill $418,478 Electrical Workers Ibew AFL-CIO
    Kenneth Rigmaiden $417,540 Painters AFL-CIO
    John Previsich $414,408 Sheet Metal, Air, Rail And Transportation Workers
    Betty Ginsburg $413,301 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Jon Davis $412,793 Laborers
    John Stocks $412,398 National Education Assoc.
    Sean Mcgarvey $411,878 Bldg & Constrn Trades Dept AFL-CIO
    Jim Johnson $408,313 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Walter Wise $408,257 Iron Workers AFL-CIO
    James Grogan $406,623 Insulators AFL-CIO
    Phil Barbarello $405,532 Air Traffic Controllers AFL-CIO
    Ana Mcahron-Schulz $402,568 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    John Telford $396,371 Plumbers AFL-CIO
    Andris J Silins $393,009 Carpenters
    Frank Hanley $390,553 Food & Commercial Wkrs Local Union 464
    William Creeden $390,259 Boilermakers AFL-CIO
    Ron Kutak $387,410 Stage & Picture Operators AFL-CIO Local Union 700
    Patrick Finley $386,357 Plasterers & Cement Masons AFL-CIO
    Joel Parker $386,184 Transportation Communications Union/Iam, AFL-CIO
    Salvatore Chilia $384,120 Electrical Workers Ibew AFL-CIO
    Tyler Brown $383,826 Boilermakers AFL-CIO
    John Baker $379,569 Longshoremens Assoc. AFL-CIO
    James Hoffa $379,411 Teamsters
    Liz Koby $377,328 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Thomas Bethel $376,671 American Maritime Officers, SIUNA
    Thomas Callahan $376,625 Engineers, Operating, AFL-CIO Local Union 15
    Keith Hagy $375,542 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Michael Robbins $374,425 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Theodore Green $373,581 Laborers
    Douglas Banes $372,562 Carpenters
    Linda Canan Stephens $371,390 State County & Muni Empls AFL-CIO
    Larry Cann $371,236 Plumbers AFL-CIO
    Gerald Owens $370,212 Longshoremens Assoc. AFL-CIO
    Murray Morrissey $367,740 Retail Wholesale, Dc, Ufcw Local Union 338
    David Krieger $367,433 Air Line Pilots Assoc. AFL-CIO
     
    #732     Apr 18, 2016
  3. nitro

    nitro

    It isn't so much that Hilary is corrupt. The whole system is corrupt.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$ on Hilary motorcade.

     
    #733     Apr 18, 2016
  4. nitro

    nitro

     
    #734     Apr 18, 2016
  5. nitro

    nitro

    Trump and Sanders Have a Point About Trade With China
    When U.S. imports rise, so do unemployment and disability payments.

    As the presidential primaries land in New York Tuesday, Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump have been hammering home their arguments that free trade--especially with China--has harmed a lot of ordinary Americans, even as it lowered prices for consumers. They have a point, according to research by three economists who studied what happened to the U.S. when imports from China soared.

    The chart below comes from "The China Shock: Learning from Labor Market Adjustment to Large Changes in Trade," a paper by David Autor of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, David Dorn of the University of Zurich, and Gordon Hanson of the University of California-San Diego. It's been getting a lot of attention since its release in January, including in this article I wrote for Bloomberg Businessweek.

    The bars show what happened from 1990 and 2007, as imports from China killed U.S. jobs. The chart takes the dollar value of imports from China and divides that sum by the number of American workers. Then it compares that number with the attendant increase in government transfer payments such as unemployment, disability, and retirement benefits.

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    Here's the math: Statistically speaking, for each $1,000-per-worker increase in annual imports from China, there's a roughly $58-per-capita increase in annual transfer payments. Those payouts aren't giveaways: They're partial compensation to workers, their families, and communities for the losses suffered when their jobs went away...

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-have-a-point-about-trade-with-china-in7dreik

     
    #735     Apr 19, 2016
  6. Did she stop and collect the money?
     
    #736     Apr 19, 2016
  7. nitro

    nitro

    Ben & Jerry arrested protesting obscene amounts $$$$ in politics buying candidates.


    Ben & Jerry Arrested

    "WASHINGTON — The co-founders of Ben & Jerry's have been arrested at the U.S. Capitol as part of ongoing protests in Washington about the role of money in politics.

    Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield were among approximately 300 people who were arrested Monday as part of protests by a group called Democracy Awakening.

    The Vermont-based ice cream company's website says the purpose of the protests is to make sure everyone's voice is heard "and that power in this country is returned to the people."

    U.S. Capitol Police say those arrested were charged with crowding, obstructing or incommoding, which is unlawful demonstration activity. They were processed on the scene and released.

    Police say they've arrested more than 1,200 people since the protests began April 11..."

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/co...-arrested-at-us-capitol/ar-BBrW5tb?li=BBnb7Kz
     
    #737     Apr 19, 2016
  8. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Like to hear your thoughts regarding "so many elementary logic mistakes". Can you give just a few examples?
     
    #738     Apr 19, 2016
  9. nitro

    nitro

    When I get the time
     
    #739     Apr 19, 2016
  10. nitro

    nitro

    The Bern?!!??
     
    #740     Apr 19, 2016