The Bern Identity

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jan 18, 2016.

  1. fhl

    fhl

    #721     Apr 17, 2016
  2. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

     
    #722     Apr 18, 2016
  3. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

     
    #723     Apr 18, 2016
  4. nitro

    nitro

    That is an intelligent and well presented and argued video.
     
    #724     Apr 18, 2016
  5. nitro

    nitro

    That one is horribly argued and poorly presented. There are so many elementary logic mistakes I don't know where to start.
     
    #725     Apr 18, 2016
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    Fear mongering, truths twisted to add fear, go walk along with christian apologists.
     
    #726     Apr 18, 2016
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    Stupid. To compare Bernie Sanders to Hitler. Does Bernie Sanders have hate and paranoid to blacks people, Jewish people? Is Bernie Sanders really that sick in the head? No.
     
    #727     Apr 18, 2016
  8. nitro

    nitro

    The video implies all sorts of things. The most important message is that America is not a true Democracy in the sense that majorities don't always get their way - mob rule. That instead, America also protects the right of minorities, at least Constitutionally (legally).

    He then goes on to show how a Social Democracy is what Hilter sold the German people. He argues that Nazi Germany in some sense was in the 1930s the path that the Bern is leading us down. This eventually led to the atrocities against the Jews, the one percent of Germany at that time. Rich people in the US have also stated this fear- that one day they will be led to the Guillotine. It is up to us to critically think if the analogy buys us something. Does the Bern need to refine his stance? Clarify it?

    It is reasonably argued from all points of view, and it holds enough together to reflect on, imo - something that is not easy to do when mixing Legal, Economics, Political Philosophy, and The Social Contract - systems that are often at odds with each other by definition. My problem is that it does not address what it means for a state to be moral. There are inconsistencies and obfuscation of facts that are contradictory, but they are not terrible.

    It is not a bad video imo. The second one mixes fact with fiction.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2016
    #728     Apr 18, 2016
  9. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Please give some examples.
     
    #729     Apr 18, 2016
  10. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    You clearly didn't listen to the video.
     
    #730     Apr 18, 2016