The Bern Identity

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Jan 18, 2016.

  1. That's all we need... to elect a fucking Communist after Odumbo!

    Might happen, sadly, as his plans appeal to our large parasite class.

    :(
     
    #171     Jan 29, 2016
  2. nitro

    nitro

    Link?
     
    #172     Jan 29, 2016
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    I hadn't seen those actual bracket numbers before. They must not include the levy for medicare. If they did, they would be extremely reasonable. Certainly something I could get behind. I need to go to the Sander's website and see what there is as far as specifics. I wonder if there are 6 million workers in the health insurance industry? I wouldn't be voting for Sanders were I working in the Health Insurance Business. Although I would think there might be a place for supplemental health insurance under his proposal. Any sweeping change needs also to consider the affect on employment and how that is to be dealt with.
     
    #173     Jan 29, 2016
  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    Here is what I found re taxes on the the Sanders web site. Looks fairly reasonable, but the devil is surely in the details. https://berniesanders.com/issues/real-tax-reform-policies-that-sen-sanders-has-proposed/

    I'm still looking for the source of those numbers in the Tax Foundation report.

    OK, found it. the complete report is here: http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan

    Pretty detailed. Apparently the numbers are on the Sanders site in the section explaining how he would pay for his medicare proposal. (and under other headings there as well) Most interesting is that the bracket numbers mentioned above in the gwb post from an IBD article do include his medicare funding. So that looks extremely reasonable to me. If these numbers are anywhere close to doable, they would save the average citizen a lot of money! Even using the footnotes from the Tax Foundation Report I still can't find the actual bracket numbers in the Foundation report on the Sanders site, but I have to say that the Sanders site is more detailed than I have seen in a long time from any political candidate. Pretty amazing. I am going to assume that the Tax foundation folks must have been in direct communication with the Sanders campaign to get the level of detail they arrived at. I really like those Bracket numbers! They are moving to nearly exactly what I think they should be to correct, or at least halt, the wealth redistribution that's been damaging our economy. (See my many other posts on this issue.)
     
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    #174     Jan 29, 2016
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  5. fhl

    fhl

    #175     Jan 29, 2016
  6. achilles28

    achilles28

    #176     Jan 30, 2016
  7. fhl

    fhl

    The Swiss are voting on a countrywide referendum to extend a basic income of 1700 /month to everyone whether they work or not.

    Guess the type of people pushing this nonsense.
    According to an article in the dailymail on this referendum," the group proposing the initiative, which includes artists, writers and intellectuals..."

    What a surprise. It's people who are basically incensed that others in society fail to recognize the immense importance of their contributions to society and therefore the gov't must step in and 'make' them understand it by a forced redistribution of money from the 'stupid' to the self anointed 'intellectually superior'.
     
    #177     Jan 30, 2016

  8. Translated, "they raise taxes on people making more money than me..."
     
    #178     Jan 30, 2016
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    and taxes would go up for me as well, I'm ok with that, even though I wouldn't be one of those who would benefit tremendously. For the bottom 90%, the Sanders plan should be a net benefit. And I would think a great boost to the economy. I imagine the majority of those in the top few percent of incomes would oppose the Sanders plan. The hardest thing in the world is to keep pigs away from a trough.

    I like the brackets very much that the Tax Foundation reported for the Sanders' plan. I hope they are being properly reported. I have mentioned a number of times that we needed more brackets and the top bracket needed to be raised. Stacking all the resources and money at the top is very damaging to the economy.

    The wealth redistribution we have experienced, since Reagan, is largely the result of the compounding of the effect of collapsing the brackets and continually taxing unearned income at lower rates than earned. This is killing our economy. It appears that the Sander's plan would go a long way toward correcting the situation. I am starting to like the way this guy thinks.
     
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    #179     Jan 30, 2016
  10. jem

    jem

    because Obamacare and open border / terrorist importation are so successful I would expect more programs from the establishment to be just a solid.

    the giant sucking sound... caused by govt.

    This guy was right and that is why I voted for him.
    Its been going on with just about every piece of govt since then.


     
    #180     Jan 30, 2016