The Bail Out Helps Main Street-Or Pikers Like You

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Pa(b)st Prime, Sep 24, 2008.

  1. that's bullshit

    most Americans dont get bailed out. factory workers with jobs shipped overseas didnt get bailed out. tech workers replaced by h-1bs didnt get bailed out. most of these people did not ask for higher government spending

    but now, the c--ksuckers who cheered all this globalism want a giant welfare check

    sell your 'collective guilt' crap elsewhere
     
    #11     Sep 24, 2008
  2. Mecro

    Mecro

    Nonsense, there was no bailout for the average American anyway. They will be foreclosed on as planned, but the Democtrats are adding in provisions.

    No plan, no bailout is the answer to this problem. Let the parasitic institutions fail, let the homes be foreclosed on.

    About 80% masses do reject any viable candidate, like Ron Paul. But don't forget the media and even Congress itself. Whenever someone speaks the truth, they get shunned.
     
    #12     Sep 24, 2008
  3. It already happened. It's been happening for years.

    Until people understand that a subsidy is nothing more than a slow-motion bailout, there is no hope.

    Cheers.
     
    #13     Sep 24, 2008
  4. pabst is the worst form of welfare scum

    he bleats his so called liberatarisnism while he claims to be winning, beats his chest about his florida real estate conquests, but when his holdings go against him, he begs with the lack of dignity matched only by an untouchable in India
     
    #14     Sep 24, 2008
  5. It might well be.

    Keep in mind the next Treasury auction is on Monday. If there is no plan, no bailout, the auction will fail.

    And then what?
     
    #15     Sep 24, 2008
  6. GTG

    GTG

    I think this bail-out is playing out like a game of prisoner's dilemma in congress. I think enough of the members of congress know what is at stake here to pass the bill, but if the bill passes, anyone who votes for this unpopular "bail-out" is going to get attacked by those who didn't vote for it. The public will be on side against the bail-out, because without a catastrophe, the public will never know what was at stake.

    So you have a situation here, where most of congress wants the bill passed, but no one actually wants to be counted among those who voted for it. If the bill doesn't pass, and the equities markets drop 20% in a few days, and there are lines around the block at your local bank, while at the same time factories are laying off blue-collar workers because they can't get credit to finance the next month's payroll, then sure the public will be screaming mad at congress for not "doing something". But, all of the politicians will be kind of screwed equally in that case because in the wake of such pandemonium all politicians will be in trouble. The public will be in too much of a state of panic to make the finer distinctions between who voted for and against the bail-out package. They will just throw everyone out of office in the next election.

    This is why Nanci Pelosi wants to make sure that significant numbers of Republicans will vote for the bill before she is willing to bring it to a vote, and also why she needs the president to make a speech showing his support tonight too. She doesn't want the Dems to be alone in taking the blame for "bailing out wallstreet". The Democrats and Republicans both also need to attach all kinds of face-saving provisions to the bill like limiting executive pay for the companies getting bailed out, so that they can face their angry constituents by saying "yeah the bill sucks, but I forced those greedy bankers to take a pay-cut at least!".
     
    #16     Sep 24, 2008
  7. Are YOU insured by the FDIC? Bet you are....
     
    #17     Sep 24, 2008
  8. 70% of adult America owns their home. Good luck seeing those folks pay cash........
     
    #18     Sep 24, 2008
  9. Mecro

    Mecro

    Uhm no. Socialism operates under the guise of subsidies while actually lowering the standard for the masses, while pushing forward the elite.

    Any subsidy for the average american came at the expense of higher taxes & inflation. Net negative for everyone, in case the results are not obvious.

    You, as a self proclaimed libertarian, should know this.

    People should help out others because of their heart, not a government mandated tax/levy. It's called having a sense of humanity. I doubt you even have the slightest concept of what that means.
     
    #19     Sep 24, 2008
  10. I don't care if my house goes down to 100k. Why would it matter? I'm at PARITY with every other house. Actually given that I want a BETTER house someday I'm better off if real estate breaks than if it rallies. IOW's I'm a de fato short spreads.
     
    #20     Sep 24, 2008