I think by now you should have noticed the fraudidiots in this thread do not post any links about "widespread fraud"...just a lot of lip service from them about their feelings, suspicious, there must be fraud, or Arizona should have done it a different way. Simply, a bunch of loser cry babies trying to find a miracle like Trump did in his infamous phone call in Georgia to the election official to "find more votes for him" to flip the election for him. Instead, they've posted links about the Republicans removing a Democrat from his/her powers in Arizona or doing the same to another Republican that has publicly stated they've not found any widespread fraud in the prior audits. This is why the Republicans are losing registered voters at a high rate because they no longer want to be part of the GOP that continues to act like sore losers catering to Trumpism on steroids. Lets now count how long it takes @Buy1Sell2 to post another breaking news link about the Republicans stripping the powers of someone that doesn't agree with the BIG LIE or that there are "discrepancies" (a.k.a. - still no widespread fraud) Next, if we call the fraudit what it is...a clown show. @Buy1Sell2 then states to let this play out. Of course, we agree with the let this play out because they're losing Republicans left and right to the Democrats or Independents because of the BIG LIE. #hilarious wrbtrader
Election officials call Arizona audit 'bombshell' a dud I wouldn't be surprised to soon hear that the Republicans are not looking for ways to silence those county officials from Maricopa. In fact, Jack Sellers, who chairs the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, said he is prepared for a future legal fight. “Finish your audit, release the report, and be prepared to defend it in court,” he said in a prepared statement. https://tucson.com/news/state-and-r...cle_a6cc2b9a-e710-11eb-b8b5-a398a78c28c2.html Maybe Cyber Ninjas is intentionally delaying because they're so fucking embarrassed...they'll never be trusted again to find widespread fraud. I'm now going to change my prediction a little about the next Arizona Audit this year. I think it will be a door to door recount and they'll send people abroad to countries of military soldiers or Arizonians with 2nd homes in another country to verify their "absentee vote" They will then take a photo of the Arizonian...put your photo in the law enforcement database to ensure that you're not wanted for any crimes and ensure you have not been talking about the benefits of being fully vaccinated while you're living abroad in another country. wrbtrader
"Why do we even bother fact checking Orange Julius Caesar any more? Did he open his mouth and say something? Then yes, he's lying." AP FACT CHECK: Trump makes false claims about Arizona audit https://news.yahoo.com/ap-fact-check-trump-makes-224942791.html Former President Donald Trump issued three statements in two days falsely claiming that voting fraud and irregularities cost him Arizona's electoral votes. Trump relied on comments made Thursday by contractors hired by state Senate Republicans to oversee a partisan review of the 2020 vote count in Maricopa County, which includes metro Phoenix. The “forensic audit,” as Senate GOP leaders are calling their review, is overseen by Cyber Ninjas, a small computer security firm with no election experience before Trump began questioning the 2020 results. Its CEO, Doug Logan, spread false conspiracy theories about the election before he was hired to lead the Arizona review. Logan and Ben Cotton, a digital forensics analyst working on the audit, described issues they say need further review. Trump has parroted them as evidence the election results are tainted. County officials and elections experts say the claims are false and based on a misunderstanding of election materials, which they say creates an appearance of irregularities where none exists. Trump laid out his claims most specifically in a statement Friday night. A look at the irregularities he alleges in that statement: TRUMP: “168,000 fraudulent ballots printed on illegal paper (unofficial ballots)” THE FACTS: All of that is false. The ballots were not unofficial or printed on illegal paper, and even Logan never alleged they were fraudulent. Logan pointed to ballots with the printing slightly offset between the front and back. He claimed this could cause votes to be counted for the wrong candidate if ink from one side bleeds through to another. He said the alignment issues were mostly from polling-place ballots, which are printed onsite, and said about 168,000 ballots were cast that way. The overwhelming majority of Arizona voters cast ballots by mail. “We are seeing a lot of very thin paper stock being used especially on Election Day,” Logan added. The allegation harkens back to the debunked “Sharpiegate” conspiracy theory that arose in the days after the election. Election experts say bleed-through doesn’t affect the vote count because bubbles on one side of a ballot don’t align with those on the other. Ballots that can't be read are flagged and duplicated by a bipartisan team. Arizona’s election procedures manual says only that ballots “must be printed with black ink on white paper of sufficient thickness to prevent the printing from being discernible on the reverse side the ballot.” Maricopa County uses 80 pound Votesecur paper from Rolland, which is among the papers approved by Dominion Voting Systems, which makes the county's tabulation equipment, said Fields Moseley, a county spokesman. Logan did not provide any evidence that alignment problems affected the vote count and said the issue needs more analysis. ___ TRUMP, citing “74,000 mail in ballots received that were never mailed (magically appearing ballots)." THE FACTS: No, there were no magically appearing ballots. He is alleging that the number of filled-out ballots received in the mail by election officials exceeded the number of people who had asked earlier for mail-in ballots, by 74,000. But that's not at all what happened. The claim mischaracterizes reports created for political parties to track who has voted early so they can target their get-out-the-vote efforts. One report tracks all requests that voters make for early ballots, either by mail or in person, up to 11 days before the election. The other report tracks all ballots received through the day before the election. That leaves a 10-day window during which people who vote in-person but don't request a mail ballot would appear on one report but not the other. ___ TRUMP, claiming “11,000 voters were added to the voter rolls AFTER the election and still voted." THE FACTS: There's nothing untoward about voters rolls growing after Election Day. The rolls are simply updated to reflect people whose provisional ballots are added to the tally after election officials verify that they were eligible to vote. The allegation that the updated tally was the result of electoral wrongdoing first came from Logan this past week, when he told state lawmakers of “11,326 people that did not show up on the Nov. 7 version of the voter rolls, after votes were cast, but then appeared on the Dec. 4 voter rolls.” Maricopa County officials said Logan is probably referring to provisional ballots, which are cast by people who do not appear on the voter rolls or don't have the proper identification on Election Day. They're only counted if the voter later shows he or she was eligible to vote. To be eligible, such voters must have registered before the deadline. “These go through a rigorous verification process to make sure that the provisional ballots cast are only counted if the voter is eligible to vote in the election,” Maricopa County officials wrote on Twitter. “This happens after Election Day. Only eligible voters are added to the voter rolls.” ___ TRUMP, alleging “all the access logs to the machines were wiped, and the election server was hacked during the election.” THE FACTS: That flies in the face of the evidence. Maricopa County's election server is not connected to the internet and independent auditors found no evidence the election server was hacked. Trump's hacking allegation refers to the unauthorized download of public data from the county's voter registration system. That system, which is connected to the internet and broadly accessible to political parties and election workers, is not linked to the election management system, the web of ballot counters, computers and servers that tallies votes. The election management system is “air gapped," or kept disconnected from the rest of the county's computer network and the wider internet. Two firms certified by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission to test voting systems found Maricopa County's machines were not connected to the internet and did not have malicious hardware or software installed. ___ TRUMP: “Arizona shows Fraud and Voting Irregularities many times more than would be needed to change the outcome of the Election.” THE FACTS: Not so. The number of potential fraud cases is far smaller than President Joe Biden's margin of victory in Arizona. County election officials identified 182 cases where voting problems were clear enough that they referred them to investigators for further review, according to an Associated Press investigation. So far, only four cases have led to charges, including those identified in a separate state investigation. No one has been convicted. No person’s vote was counted twice. Biden won Arizona by 10,457 votes out of 3.4 million cast. Of the four cases that have resulted in criminal charges, two involved Democratic voters and two involved Republicans.
We all know, including the GOP, Cruz, McCarthy, and McConnell have publicly stated Trump is a liar. Thus, it's a waste of time to even fact-check his words because most of the time... it's so far-fetched and ridiculous...you're in disbelief and then the next minute is comical. Yet, if this clown show audit can't find more than 200 discrepancies that do not even qualify as an arrest nor votes counted twice...a fucking waste of time for the GOP and I hope the GOP are so embarrassed that they turn on the Cyber Ninja firm to sue their asses into bankrupcy. Really, the prior two audits also didn't find anything beyond 200 discrepancies. Whom, I now think McCarthy went to Florida recently to tell Trump the bad news and to keep him fired up by telling him there must be fraud out there in one of these states...they'll try to hatch a plan to do a U.S. Presidential Election again on the theme that they will not ask for any more audits. Kind'uv reminds me of that loser tactic when someone loses a game... They then say - OK...I just lost...let's now play best of two and the winner takes it all. No dumbass...you play best of an odd number...not best of two after you lost election 1 to Biden. Besides, this is not Hockey nor the NBA playoffs. Simply, you lose...you shut the fuck up...pack your bags and go home. wrbtrader
LOL - it's their own College Republicans election. Maybe they need to call up the CyberNinjas. College Republicans in disarray after 'stolen' election — Texas chapter may even secede Allegations of voter fraud were rampant. Audits are likely. Some states may even secede https://www.salon.com/2021/07/18/co...ction--texas-chapter-may-even-secede_partner/