The ACD Method

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by sbrowne126, Jul 16, 2009.

  1. #13061     Apr 2, 2017
  2. Hi Mav,
    Have read many of your posts especially related to spreads and your mention of energy as one of your preferred trading instruments as opposed to other futures sectors.
    So, when considering whether to put on a NG or CL spread (or other energy spread - let's consider just those for the moment), and you have a bazillion calendar, butterfly, condors as possible trades how do you go about narrowing the bazillion down to a select few as trade candidates?
    Am not asking for secret sauce but rather your thought process.

    Thanks
     
    #13062     Apr 2, 2017
  3. SteveM

    SteveM

    Tonysoprano, are we supposed to still supposed to push Webistics?

     
    #13063     Apr 2, 2017
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Good question. First, you should never trade anything you don't understand. These guys that say all they need are the charts are full of shit. Understand what you are trading. This really applies to energy. So this right there eliminates 90% of the bazillion choices you have. Next, try to look for things, especially in the beginning that have some correlation to flat price. This will help you get your sea legs. You will be able to spot relative strength or weakness relative to the flat price. Third, try to match the spread with your personality. If you are a risk averse person, look for that in your spread combos. There are plenty of old granny spreads out there that move around like an 85 year old with arthritis. There are others that behave like a meth-head having a particularly bad day. Make sure you get in the right category so you can have the patience needed to extract the most economic benefit.

    Spreads have deltas just like options. Delta is simply a rate of change of the spread in question to the prompt month price (front month). So if the spread has a delta of .10 then that means let's say in WTI, for every dollar move up, your spread will move .10.

    Good luck!
     
    #13064     Apr 2, 2017
  5. Absolutely agree that there is more than just the charts. I was so sure that since everyone knew about the Brexit announcement, there would be no drastic moves, so I just traded on the numbers. Big mistake, and who cares if it was manipulation or whatever, long story short I got stopped out on one Euro cross and closed another for a loss before it hit my stop. Bit upset with myself for being sloppy.
     
    #13065     Apr 2, 2017
  6. Speaking of trading things you don't understand, I have realized recently that I have traded my whole adult life without tracking the USD. I never understood that the dollar is half of my trade.
     
    #13066     Apr 2, 2017
  7. What a classic scene. I think you should always push the pick of the week.
     
    #13067     Apr 2, 2017
  8. copyplus

    copyplus

    I think some of this sentiment may go back to Mav's days at Worldco. He talks about it once in a while. If I recall, the story goes that he made a nice living trading stocks that no one ever heard of while the guys who came in trading the high-flyers and household names all washed out.

    My understanding is that it isn't so much that because everyone sees it therefore it can't work; but more that if everyone sees it then you're going to have more traffic/noise to deal with.
     
    #13068     Apr 2, 2017
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  9. Something I have come to understand is that it helps to look at it from the point of view of people that manage OPM. IE They need to be in equities when equities are going up or they will underperform and lose business. So that trade gets crowded like this years bull run. The number lines can help to spot when that bull run is winding down and we can be there early when all the big money finally has to bail. Turns out that thread on calling the SP top was actually pretty close to what the number lines were saying. Maybe he used ACD to make the call. :)
     
    #13069     Apr 2, 2017
  10. Makes total sense. My regular line of work requires me to think outside the box and be a critical thinker a lot of the time, and I find that most others aren't. I think I forget a lot of traders are sheeple just like folks in the non-trading universe.

    Adopting various aspects of ACD has been very intuitive to me. It's also why I've enjoyed reading a lot of the discussion on this thread.
     
    #13070     Apr 2, 2017