Not so much. It's the what tarded cons think tarded libs think version. You don't have an audience here for constant misrepresentation of these terms. ET Libs are too bright and know what fascism is, the rest aren't worth talking to. Well unless Notagain is your kind of wingman... I think you can do better.
Jeanne Shaheen and Lindsey Grahamnesty very busy promoting their warmongering credentials. Money most be flowing for them to all come out to Germany. Not on table, how the Ukrainians and Zelensky's backers are going to defeat Russia so, Putin comes to the table? They consider facts like Ukraine not able to reclaim territory from Russia and Ukraine not being accepted into NATO as a giveaway to Putin. Delusion goes sky high with the NATO warmongers from Germany, UK, Lithuania and Poland. They still dream of defeating Russia, that thought dancing in their heads still. They ignore that Russia is taking more and more territory from Ukraine daily. That peace treaty or deal will include no NATO membership for Ukraine and recognition of the annexed regions a part of Russia now.
What if they let Russia keep most or certainly some of what they've annexed, but in exchange for that, Ukraine gets into Nato. With that, both sides are giving something up, but also getting what they want. Plus it would ensure the Ukrainians of no further aggression on the part of Putin. Unless he wants to take on Nato, and I doubt he's that stupid. I just don't see him giving up land that so many young Russians, right or wrong, have died for. But he's gonna have to give something up. Ukraine joining Nato seems like the logical "bitter pill" for him to swallow to end the bloodshed.
Honest question on this point..people seem willing to let Putin have land he seized in a war HE started but people are against Israel keeping land seized against people that attacked them... I dont get the logic that is out there..
Israel, their extreme right, intended to be attacked for the purpose excess retaliation to gain land and shut down a lot of problems they had with rising doves. They are not quite right in the head. Also, it's only some Americans who are willing to let Ukraine lose, mostly because the USA is too used to abandoning allies. Oops, new admin, well hope you are not allergic to lead.
I didn't say it was right... but it is what it is. What's the alternative? Another two years and another million plus lives lost? I'd be willing to bet, the youth on both sides, could give a flying f about a line drawn on a map +/- 150 miles. Color me naive... but that's what I think. And it's THEIR world... not a bunch of old f's like us.
Yep. In addition. Israel had total control of Gaza and totally left it and gave it back to the Palestineans by 2005. Now people are chanting that Israel needs to leave Gaza and there needs to be a ceasefire. Helloo.....there was a total withdrawal and Hamas attacked during the previous ceasefire still in effect. Gaza was given self-governance and they/Hamas just used it as a forward base to attack and harass Isreal. And did not do a damn thing for their people.