Let's explain this slowly in larger letters so you might possibly understand. EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS EVER RECEIVED SOCIAL SECURITY IN THE UNITED STATES IS IN THE DATABASE -- EVEN IF THEY ARE DECEASED. Even the simple minded should be able to grasp this concept.
Social Security sending out checks to millions of dead people? It’s not just false. It’s absurd Elon Musk’s easily disprovable misrepresentation of a table of numbers threatens to erode confidence in one of the most reliable programs we have. https://www.fastcompany.com/9128141...ng-150-year-olds-dead-people-doge-claim-false
At that age, you could be collecting the social security checks of at least 20 dead spouses. Reality, you can only receive the social security of a deceased spouse...only the most recent deceased spouse and not the social security checks of deceased spouses before the most recent dead one. Anyways, the U.S. has maintained a database of everyone that has a social security number since August 14th of 1935 when Social Security first started...including a database of those who have never worked a day in their life and have died after receiving a social security number while never receiving any social security benefits. wrbtrader
Just Musk lying his ass off again. DOGE Said It Cut $232 Million From Social Security Budget. It Was Only About Half a Million. https://theintercept.com/2025/02/20/doge-social-security-cuts-musk-receipts/ The “Department of Government Efficiency” claimed to have saved the American taxpayer nearly $232 million by canceling an IT contract for the Social Security Administration. They were only off by about $231 million. In fact, the government cut only $560,000, a paltry savings generated by yet another Trump administration anti-trans attack: the elimination of a project to develop an “X” gender marker for the agency’s internal databases. The Social Security Administration Wednesday confirmed the discrepancy between the DOGE claims and the actual total, which was first uncovered by The Intercept. DOGE’s mixed-up math came as no surprise to Dylan Hedtler-Gaudette, the director of government affairs at the Project on Government Oversight, who testified before the House DOGE subcommittee last week about the shortcomings of the Elon Musk effort. “This, to me, is just part and parcel of the amateur-hour nature of what DOGE is doing,” he told The Intercept. “They’re going to destroy more than they help. It’s absolutely counterproductive.” “They’re going to destroy more than they help.” When Musk’s “Department of Governmental Efficiency” — officially the U.S. DOGE Service Temporary Organization — was first announced in November, it seemed like little more than a stunt. Immediately following Trump’s inauguration, however, the initiative sprang into action with murky processes and unclear outcomes. The Social Security contract snafu is just the latest example of confusion spread by Musk and DOGE as they boast of big cuts that vanish upon closer inspection. On Monday, in response to criticisms from Democrats that the entity was not producing evidence to back up Musk’s extravagant claims of success, DOGE first posted its “wall of receipts,” an effort billed as follow-through on promises of transparency. The rollout since then has been anything but smooth. On Tuesday, the New York Times reported that one claim of having saved $8 billion by axing a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement contract was wildly incorrect, since the underlying contract only amounted to $8 million. On Wednesday, other media outlets such as CNN picked apart DOGE’s claim to have saved $1.9 billion from USAID contracts — the hypothetical maximum of contracts that have so far only cost the government $55 million over several years. The Cut That Wasn’t The mislabeling of savings from cuts to the Social Security Administration stem from apparent confusion — or misdirection by DOGE — around a massive IT contract with Leidos, a Fortune 500 company that also contracts for defense and intelligence agencies. Since 2018, Leidos has billed $1.5 billion to the Social Security Administration through an overarching contract that currently has a ceiling of $1.9 billion. On the surface, the contract’s goals of upgrading Social Security software systems seem to align with Musk’s stated concerns about outdated technology. Still, DOGE claimed that it had taken a hatchet to the contract, in the process slashing $231,864,794 in government spending.
Tsing’s response is his standard rhetorical misdirection and uninformed supposition, diverting attention from the original falsehood rather than engaging with its refutation. The claim that “millions” of dead people are receiving Social Security benefits was a gross exaggeration, yet instead of acknowledging this, Tsingy shifts the conversation to inefficiencies in the system an issue worth discussing but unrelated to the initial deception. Further, the critique of SS's database update cost is rooted in anecdotal experience rather than a genuine understanding of large-scale government IT projects. Comparing a private sector database migration to the modernization of an aging, mission critical Cobol system one responsible for managing trillions in benefits? Fuck off. We are tech guys, old enough to know Cobol, Y2K paid for my house in London. The assertion that $71.8 billion in improper payments over seven years constitutes rampant fraud ignores that this sum represents less than 1% of total benefits, an error rate most large organizations would envy. The $31 million recovered from payments to deceased individuals, while regrettable, does not validate Trump’s claim of millions of dead recipients. The Treasury access to the SS's "Full Death Master File" was yielding results pre DOGE.
obfuscation is trump and tsingy's game.... A claim is made and refuted and then the goal posts move to say something else is wrong... without ever going back and saying it was a mistake...instead it is yeah that other statements was simply hyperbole...everyone does it. NO...FUCKING LIARS DO IT. Like 38,000 Americans died in the Panama Canal... some fucktard on the plane repeated that to me and I looked at him like he was an idtiot and the conversation stopped. Over 40,000 PEOPLE worked on the canal when it was being built..... 38,000 died? wow must have been quiet in the mess hall. Dont engage with people who simple shift away from the point when proven wrong, they have no integrity.
Now I've got two of you referring to me in the third person! Rent free, baby! I'm putting condos up all over the place in your heads! On a serious note, you might notice how Ricter and I manage to have civil discussions most of the time despite our very different approaches. That's because he's respectful, and I'm respectful. Act like a dick, and I'll be a dick in return. You guys (Tuxan, El Ocho) get pissy when you're called out, and then you just start throwing mud. Well, throw all the mud you like! It's gonna be a looooooong four years for some of you if you're already this hysterical and it hasn't even been more than 30 days.
Noncitizens who are legally allowed to work in the U.S. (e.g., permanent residents) can get Social Security Numbers. https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10096.pdf