The 95% consensus is now just 43%

Discussion in 'Politics' started by WeToddDid2, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #91     Aug 12, 2015

  2. So? He's wrong about almost all the above and he whore for the FF industry/conservative think tanks and is not a climatologist. Is this what you consider good science? LOL
     
    #92     Aug 12, 2015
  3. jem

    jem

    a. if you read your paper you see this statement, confirming the models failed. I will then give you the translation of this paragraph...

    here is your paper's explanation for the failure... (which you were denying for the past few years.)

    "Combined, the apparent discrepancy between observations and simulations of global temperature over the past 15 years can be partly explained by the way the comparison is done (about a third), by the incorrect radiative forcings (about a third) and the rest is either due to climate variability or because the models are slightly over sensitive on average. But, the room for the latter effect is now much smaller."

    b. and now for the correct translation...

    1. 1/3 of the failure is due to the fact we could not fudge temperature records fast enough.

    2. 1/3 of the failure (at least) is due to the fact the Sun and the Tides really have a big influence on temperature.

    3. 1/3 of the failure is because co2 trails global warming and cooling and does not drive it.




     
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    #93     Aug 12, 2015
  4. From the idiot wetodddidtoo's post above...............

    "The recent cold winters and expanding polar ice caps are ominous signs of a global cooling that has already begun, maintains David Dilley -"

    lol, what an idiot, and this is the kind of douchebag that right wing denier morons like wedidtoddintheasstoo rely on. Almost funny, but more pathetic.

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    #94     Aug 12, 2015

  5. So you didn't read the article. Whatever. The ignorant just want to stay that way I guess.
     
    #95     Aug 12, 2015
  6. jem

    jem

    I clicked around and saw nothing.

    You are going to have to produce some papers showing man made co2 causes warming.
    Perhaps you could cut and paste the links. I will click on a few but I hope you read them first to make sure they are not the failed models discussed above.

     
    #96     Aug 12, 2015
  7. jem

    jem

    your article confirmed the models failed and now you resort to this troll crap.
    let me give it to you again...



    "Combined, the apparent discrepancy between observations and simulations of global temperature over the past 15 years can be partly explained by the way the comparison is done (about a third), by the incorrect radiative forcings (about a third) and the rest is either due to climate variability or because the models are slightly over sensitive on average. But, the room for the latter effect is now much smaller."

    b. and now for the correct translation...

    1. 1/3 of the failure is due to the fact we could not fudge temperature records fast enough.

    2. 1/3 of the failure (at least) is due to the fact the Sun and the Tides really have a big influence on temperature.

    3. 1/3 of the failure is because co2 trails global warming and cooling and does not drive it.



     
    #97     Aug 12, 2015

  8. Of course you saw nothing. More like nothing registered in that warped brain of yours. You are a joke.
     
    #98     Aug 12, 2015
  9. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Bold, underline and blue mine.

    http://joannenova.com.au/2015/07/spot-the-vested-interest-the-1-5-trillion-climate-change-industry/
    Climate Change Business Journal
    estimates the Climate Change Industry is a $1.5 Trillion dollar escapade, which means four billion dollars a day is spent on our quest to change the climate. That includes everything from carbon markets to carbon consulting, carbon sequestration, renewables, biofuels, green buildings and insipid cars. For comparison global retail sales online are worth around $1.5 trillion. So all the money wasted on the climate is equivalent to all the goods bought online.
     
    #99     Aug 12, 2015
  10. David S

    David S

    This post misquotes the study. You can read it here: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/ipdf/10.1021/es501998e

    57% of these respondents being "less than 95% sure" hardly suggests that they don't think anthropogenic causes are the primary drivers; it simply shows that, as good scientists, they recognize that complete certainty is not easy to come by.

    This post is a disingenuous representation of the results of the study.
     
    #100     Sep 2, 2015
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