ok I should have said discretionary and deficits. You are still wrong. No numbers, no evidence at all, just assertions which are at odds with numerical reality. You have a real problem with arithmetic. In summary you are wrong. http://www.concordcoalition.org/issues/facing-facts/what-medicare-surplus Timely adjustments for $50-100T without any details provided? A hand waving assertion that 'something' must be done? All after castigating other for lacking deep thinking skills. I do see however you seem to be admitting they may be a problem here. You forgot to add wasted on medicare part B and medicaid, which have no trust funds. Intellectually lazy. http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/assets.html An imaginary $2.5T with imaginary interest return on the balance. You mean that's where the spending is, another tacit admission that's where the problem is. When one cuts budgets, one has to usually cut the largest items. Regarding the military, why don't you try reading once in a while http://www.stripes.com/gates-dod-budget-cuts-will-require-rethinking-missions-benefits-1.146688 ....and your position that medical care is not the primary issue for deficits puts you at odds with obama. It's strange that it is me and barry against you on this one http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...says-medicare-and-medicaid-are-largest-defic/
Judging by the number of foreign born doctors I have seen, I doubt there is an issue with american kids being blocked from the medical profession. The fact is that it is hard work with about 12 years of school, most kids don't want that and I certainly don't want the less bright ones convinced into becoming doctors. If I were a smart young guy looking for a career, why would I want to be a doctor when people like you are trying push my wages down and create a surplus? Prices are high because new treatments are constantly being invented and naturally poeple want that. When gov't forces providers to operate at below market costs, the distortions make prices high.
The fundamental question is- Why are you entitled to have others pay for your health care when you don't have the money? Of course there is no answer. The follow on the is how much and under what conditions? The fundamental problem is that the left has won the minds of the people. Everyone is convinced of their birthright to have all their healthcare needs covered from cradle to grave. Politicians and idealogues don't care about the unworkability of such a thing, they want power and to feel good. Michelle Obama gets to feel better about her country but then the rest of us have to deal with the mess. Rationing started almost from day one of gov't healthcare, hasn't anyone on the left noticed?
Mav88 do you have plans on what you're going to do once you're to old to stay on your parents health care plan?
Because they are entitled to have me pay for theirs when they don't have the money. It's an extension of the family/tribe. Rationing of health care happens under all systems, "governmental" or otherwise. The only real difference is the mechanism used to control the rationing.
What happens when the 'tribe' is broke? What makes your definition of tribe and family the only one? What if I don't want to be in your tribe?
1) Health care isn't my area of expertise - I make no claims to Knowing/having all the answers 2) the scariest thing about any sort of universal/centralized care for me is the who will be managing it. An out of control over reaching bureaucracy staffed by inept incompetent corrupt dumber than dog shit career bureaucrats. That same people who have managed to fuck up virtually every aspect of federal government.
well Luc, random says we are a tribe. Of course that simple trite answer to a complicated and important issue ignores the fact that there have been countless tribes with countless different ways of handling health care, but hey he feels good about it and that's all that matters. Just think of the nightmarish bureaucrats if we are to be like a scythian tribe: http://www.health.ny.gov/regulations/task_force/reports_publications/when_death_is_sought/chap5.htm tribe my ass, tribes are dictatorships, people came here from europe to escape tribalism
...more interesting anecdotes about some family values regarding health care http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalaikoothal Here's a liberal making a mess of things. The tortured contradiction is painful to read. First the liberal says that putting old people on icefloes and setting them off to die was just fine for the inuit because it was their way and life was hard. We must be understanding and enlightened of course. Then even though they admit withholding other people's money (or borrowed money from victims too young to have a voice) from seniors is not quite the same thing, it's close enough in the liberal mind to draw comparison and declare it much more cruel than putting grandma on an iceberg to die. Of course evil capitalism is to blame for it all. http://www.projectnola.com/component/content/article/89-american-zombie/80007-sliding-to-senilicide Just love those tourist asswipes who visit a primitive culture and say things like that, then head home again to this cruel uncivilized world. pure necessity? Single teleologic goal of increasing capital? Just what was the goal of the inuit? What the hell is wrong with liberals anyway? Seriously, I don't know how to even begin a reasonable conversation with such people when we start with the fact we are going broke trying to keep grandma off the iceberg and then they respond with this bullocks.