The 5 year return of Bitcoin is ZERO today

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by Pekelo, Dec 7, 2022.

  1. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    Lol, more likely sub 1k, as real money has fear, fake money does not.
     
    #11     Dec 7, 2022
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  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    That is actually an interesting take, I have to think about it. If this would be true, the whole crypto community should work on exposing Tether.

    Is there data on how many Tethers are in small hands? Because I have a feeling big companies holding billions won't be able or willing to dump those, so I wouldn't count on those as sudden extra cash coming in.
     
    #12     Dec 7, 2022
  3. Businessman

    Businessman

    That ratio is actually very good.

    The DJIA and Nasdaq makes just 6% percent above the risk free rate with 90% historic drawdowns.

    But ofcourse Bitcoin is not going to make 93% a year going forward.
     
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    #13     Dec 7, 2022
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  4. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Going back to the topic of extended periods of sideway movement for the crypto market, here is the Nikkei 225 for the historically unaware.

    Its ATH was in 1989 November, and 33 years later we are still 20% below that, never coming close to it in the last 3 decades:

    https://www.macrotrends.net/2593/nikkei-225-index-historical-chart-data

    As Clint Eastwood would say:

    Do you have 3 decades, punk?
     
    #14     Dec 7, 2022
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  5. johnarb

    johnarb

    Only 2-5% of Tethers are in big companies (exchanges), most of the Tether in circulation are in individual wallets or locked up in defi smartcontracts

    You can track Tether balances on the blockchains, it exists on more than one, but most circulating supply are on Ethereum

    Fun fact, Tether was issued first on the Omni network

    https://www.omnilayer.org/

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    Click on the explorers section and choose your blockchain to track Tether

    https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tether/
     
    #15     Dec 7, 2022
  6. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    OK, so those in smart contracts are highly illiquid, correct? And if (I mean when) Tether goes down, whoever accepted that as a collateral going to take a massive hit.
     
    #16     Dec 7, 2022
  7. virtusa

    virtusa

    What's your 10 year return on BTC? :D
     
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    #17     Dec 7, 2022
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  8. johnarb

    johnarb

    defi has liquidation algo built into the smartcontract and will be the first to dump Tether if it depegs but remember what I taught you in previous convos, Tether is the king of liquidity, it will take a lot to depeg it

    Tether was attacked recently and hardly deviated from $1. There was even a thread here on ET, lol

    You can withdraw from any smartcontract defi platform in less than 1 minute any time, 24/7/365

    This is the crypto assets ethos

    Very different than TradFi that operate within business hours

    And then they remove your ability to withdraw, like Blackstone, Genesis, BlockFi, Celsius, Voyager, FTX and others

    People's funds locked up in cefi platforms
     
    #18     Dec 7, 2022
  9. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I gave it more thought, and I think that is highly unlikely. This is what would happen:

    Tether starts to drop, let's say it is at 90 cents. Tether holders get scares and start to buy just about anything. That causes a short term rally, I would say a few days tops. (maybe just a few hours, depends on how fast the exchanges act) Somebody has to be getting all those unwanted Tethers and that is the exchanges. So they quickly realize that they are the ones ending up holding the Tether bag and will suspend Tether trading. Probably other stable coins get dumped too for at least a while. If another stable coin can take up Tether's current role that is still to be seen.

    So a short term rally and suspension of Tether trading what I see.
     
    #19     Dec 7, 2022
  10. It’s pretty pathetic you cherry pick the absolute bubble high from 2017, and the bear market low of 2022, and the return is still flat lol

    what the return since you first were bearish on bitcoin at $30? Would love to hear that one.
     
    #20     Dec 7, 2022
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