You guys are exactly right, for Western women. Terrific insights you've posted about aging and values by decade... I agree. But why limit yourself to Western women, born in the USA? I found, after dating literally several hundred women in my 20s (I was a player, with a 300zx, all over the clubs in So. Cal back in the 80s), that what worked best for me was marrying a Japanese girl, from Japan (Kobe), that I met when I lived in Hawaii. I've been with her for 11 years now, it's our 10th wedding anniversary this December. That's definitely a world record. Asian women from asia (I've dated girls from Singapore, Japan, Beijing, Korea, Thai, Hong Kong), are GREAT. You have to meet them before they've lived in the US too long, and 2nd generation ones that were born here don't count (and don't work as well, I've found from experience). They age very well (my wife weighs less now than when I met her, and she like me is in her early 40s), no wrinkles. Also she's done 100% of the cooking and cleaning for me for the entire last 11 years, and likes it. No complaints. Gotta love it. She rarely argues or raises her voice, and is very health-conscious and peaceful and pretty. Met her in Honolulu when I lived there for 10 years. Sometimes, just "changing channels" like that works wonders. Finding an asian woman from asia, where the cultural values are much different than here, was the solution for me. Phrases like "egalitarian relationships" and "sharing the power and decision making" are totally foreign to her, thankfully. I'm very traditional and like that kind of relationship -- I make the $ and she keeps the house right and we have a terrific time, and she's a great friend too (and smart, she's degreed from Univ. of Hawaii etc). To asian women, Ken p.s. and on the rare times (1x/month) when she does get pissed off at me and calls me names, I can't understand it 'cuz it's in japanese anyways lol. Tired of women who yell at you or are nasty? Ditch the US-born women and marry one from an asian country. Chinese and Korean girls are a bit more aggressive, Japanese are much more demure. It's all good. I like QUIET women who don't argue and let the man be in charge. Asian women rock. (footnote, a blackjack dealer in Vegas I was talking with said Japanese and Indian women are the best, I haven't dated Indian women though, but many are beautiful, too). At first, many seem to 'run hot and cold', eg one minute you're the hero the next they don't want to talk to you, when first dating them; it's part of the routine as they're making up their minds about you. I could write a few books
Oh the 80s and 90s. Stocks only went up, it was so easy to date/party/pick-up at bars. Real estate was affordable, quality of living high, no worries and salaries were all good.
trendlover, Thank you for the kind words. But I will say this. Young men are so confused these days, and imo it is often women that confuse them. A friend [one of my partners] of mine that has women throwing themselves at him says to me: "I treat the ones that come from humble beginnings like a queen because they want nice guys and nice guys are a huge turn on, and the rich ones like shit because that is what turns them on". He has been conditioned for what "works." I don't know why this should be true, or even if it is because I treat everyone with respect [to thine own self be true] and I don't keep track, but I am 90 delta that what the truth [his truth] he has come to is objectively true to some extent. Why anyone that is treated like "shit" would get turned on is way beyond me though. I have an 11 year old daughter. If I don't treat women the way I would like a young man to treat her when she is ready for it, what would I be subconciously telling my daughter about men from the one man she trusts implicitly?
dude i dunno what you're talking about, but i've dated many asian women and they can be as strong and bossy as anyone. a couple of weeks ago i broke up with a 24 year old (after 2 month of dating) because she was extremely demanding. she's been here only 5 years and is not westernized. i suppose you can go to asia and hook up with fob but likely she'll have bad teeth and poor hygiene. only the westernized asians are hot.
it doesn't look desperate for her if he's handsome, young looking and successful, or if she's very attractive herself. and it defintely doesn't look desperate for him; after all how many guys can pull it off? like hefner said, "i may grow older but my taste in women doesn't".
You don't have to hit the gym. Nobody goes to the gym in Europe. It's your food that's the problem ! I work out a little because I need it (I have the opposite problem of getting fat if I don't exercise) and to gain strength and sure if you work out like crazy and are ripped and big it's a plus, but that's only the cherry on the cake for most women I think. And when you get old there are still plenty of women to be had if you look good for your age. Honestly I find the under 23 absolutely uninteresting. As far as I am concerned, Women only become interesting from a conversational and connection standpoint above 25 and it gets better at 35 and above. Also the sex is MUCH better with a woman 33 and higher . Most under 23 I think aren't very good in bed, they just do porn stuff but there is no real substance.
If a girl like to be treated bad, then something is wrong with her respect for herself. No respect for herself, then she will have no respect for a man,and not be good to him mentally or sexually. Just my opinion. Yes, you show your daughter how you treat her mother, and she will look for that for herself when she is meeting boys. If that is true what your friend say about girls who are born to money and like to be treated bad, then they lost how to feel grateful maybe?
Is this thread just way for you to attempt to brag about yourself? Anyone who actually has game, especially in NYC, can see through your stories. You're writing fiction. You been reading lot of stuff on the internet and decided to to act like you know a d*mn thing. Try making an alias next time, since on almost all the other topics, you are full of sh*t and it's obvious. You are that cornball at the yuppie bars who looks desperate & cheesy approaching women without any tact or honesty. Since you're too scared to go outside that sphere, all you see are jaded, insecure, miserable suburban raised white girls with too much make-up on and too many issues. There are more than just 4 stages of women in NYC, there is a big variety. Maybe some of you guys don't get to experience it, but the fact is that it's not just gold-diggers and over the hill used up whores.
Just like there is something wrong with rich & famous people who get depressed, hooked on drugs and commit suicide. It's a general rule in the game that you treat a model or a rich girl that has some looks like a regular girl, or even like shit. They are bombarded by wusses & sycophants nonstop, very little of it is genuine. Unless you want to approach it like a sucker, assuming you can even afford it, and become their ATM.