Ok, a lot of people are sounding off, giving their *opinions* here. Just like in the markets, opinions about love & romance are mostly BS. All that counts is experience of what works and what doesn't. In my experience and observation, all the theories, lists, systems and opinions on dating/sex/love are totally worthless. In my experience, what works is this: Approach every single woman you find extremely attractive (defined not by her looks, but by whether you get a boner within seconds of meeting her), until one of them gives typical female signals she is also attracted to you. Go on 3 dates, if you have not fucked by the end of the 3rd, then she is either sexually repressed, nor not that into you - forget it, dump her and move on. If you do get laid by the 3rd date, then fuck (protected) for 6 months and have fun. Do not get her pregnant, catch an STD, or (worst case) marry her in this time. After 6 months into the relationship, take stock. If you are not arguing and eyeing up other women by this point, you are probably in love and should stick with her. If you are at each other's throats, or constantly jerking off to porn or fantasizing about your exes, then you are not in love and should dump her and move on. If you got lucky and things are going great, then consider moving in together. Then repeat this - if after 6 months you are arguing a lot, not getting enough sex, or thinking about fucking other women, then leave. If all you are doing is having a great time and lots of great sex, then ask if you want to have kids or not. If you don't, then just live together and never get married. If you do want kids, then get married and have them. If at any point, you start regretting dumping one of the women, contact her and try to rekindle things. One good sign that someone is right for you is that you move on, then miss them. Whereas if you move on, and think "Thank fuck I'm single and rid of that bitch!" then she wasn't "the one" That's it. Guaranteed to work better than any dating course, self-help book, or psychology manual.
Great! It is almost end of 2008, so it is prefect time to reevaluate your relationship. If you find this year going by so fast then your relationship is fine. LOL
Not offended at all. Just feel bad for you guys in NYC. If that is a true assessment of the ladies there...wow...I'm sorry to hear that. Come on down here...to the land of the 'Canes, sit on the beach with me on Christmas(80 degrees), indulge in some stone crab claws and watch the show. Caio!
Foreign women are almost always the exception to the stages. When you travel abroad to just about anywhere, your chances of meeting and having fun seem to immensely increase. Im not talking about a cheap prostitute in Thailand, but everywhere in general. For example, lets say you are in your 30s and in reasonable shape. You take a trip to somewhere in eastern europe where you go to a bar/club for some action just like you do here in NYC. Its almost like the 70s/80s where meeting and picking up is not that challenging. The attitude in foreign countries is much different. However, when they step foot on American soil then the rules change and they default back to the good ole stages. Your best bet here is to find a foreign woman that doesnt want to change to fit the stages. The easy part about this is that you just have to listen to accents when your traveling around NYC so it makes the process a little easier. If you hear an accent of any kind, then you know you have a step-up. She might not have been poisoned by American society just yet. In your 30s, you can pick-up stage one women with ease...well, that is you will have to work out and diet like you are preparing for the Olympics or your genes have to be especially good where you dont need exercise or diet. The second part of the equation is to all-out lie and say you are in your 20s. I did that for a while at age 30-33 where I said I was 26. I would get up early in the morning hitting the gym for 2 hours and sometimes go back for more at 6pm. I would take creatine and drink those EAS milkshakes for months while eating nothing else. Then my time started to erode and I simply couldnt keep up anymore. I also couldnt stand the EAS milkshakes and needed to taste real food again. In your 40s, it almost becomes impossible to pickup stage one women. Thats because your health starts catching up. Even if you train as if you were heading towards the Olympics, you still have those hints of being in your 40s. Stage 1 women seem to fear a guy when he turns 30+ around NYC. Its very taboo. It seems like a big deal if a woman is 19 and your 30+ going out with her. Obviously there is an age difference, but to me I see no reason why it should be so taboo. Im going to take advantage of her just like a 24 year old would take advantage... My advice to the younger crowd of men following this thread is to pickup as many women as you can. At some point, you will have no access to the young women and the Stage 3 and 4 is all you will find. Exercise and diet helps, but only for so long. Age will catch up to you at some point only leaving behind the memories. So its important to make those memories good Remember one thing though. Pick-up, but do not pay meaning dont waste your money on dinners. Instead, just meet her at the local Starbucks or go for drinks at one of the cheaper bars in NYC. Always put it out there that you would like to go half. Never brag about the money you have, your career or what you drive. In fact, you might want to bring a beater or a lesser car for the date if you drive in from the suburbs. Even if you have lots of money, do not pay. If you start paying big from the first date, then it will not end there. The sky is the limit on how much you will spend and you need to put your foot down from the first moment. If you decide to pay $100+ for dinner on the first date, then keep expecting to pay for everything and the sky is the limit as far as the price tag over the course of one year. You will keep paying and pay so dear that you will be broke. All it takes is one-person, a judge, to decide that you will be broke for the rest of your life. Therefore, always hide the fact that you have money and do not spend money on dates. If she likes you, then she likes you. If she likes you because of whats in your wallet then its not meant to be...if you really want to spend money for a successful date then I suggest driving or flying to Canada where you can legally give women $$$ for sex. Although this is an immoral route that men are resistant to take, its far cheaper then an all out relationship in NYC. In the end, there is no difference between all-out prostitution and buying dinner. Actually, the difference here is that you can spend over $300 over the course of 2-3 dates (or even 1 date) and get nothing where as going to Canada or some other country you get what you pay for...
Im going out with a woman in her mid-20s tonight who has a thick foreign accent. In fact, its so thick one might think she was being rude, but thats not the case. She just called me. She was out all last night and drinking... This is a rare find. A woman who just arrived from a foreign country and is in her honeymoon stages with NYC. She hasnt been aquainted with the stages just yet, but just partying and having fun. Give it a year and she will be there with the rest of them researching titles and doing google searches on each date wondering how much they have in their accounts. Its good to catch her early though. One other trick is to never provide any of these women with your cell-phone. Get a Verizon land-line with a voicemail and give them that number. Never give them your cellphone number and dont even admit to having one. Go back to the good ole land-line. If you must tell them about your cellphone, then say its a pre-paid account and you only use it for emergencies. When you call them, call them from the landline and never the cellphone line. When calling from the cellphone, block the number. The cellphone gets quite a few males in trouble and its also really annoying to find all these women bombarding you with texts and voicemails...
I dump every girl I go out with just after Thanksgiving. this way you get her to cook on Turkey day and then you don't have to buy her shit for Christmas. All she gets outta me for X-mas is another load if she's lucky. then go to any membership gym right after New Years, they're full of broads who did not get engaged and got pissed and broke up with their boyfriends. Talk about shooting fish in a barrel!!!!!!!
Of course in the NYC area you have to let a woman pay for half the dinner. You can't trust women in NYC. Most of them are just gold diggers looking to use a man to buy her stuff. If she agrees to pay for her half of the dinner, especially on the first date, then you know you have a winner. On my first date with my wife 4 years ago, we paid for our own dinners. Now we are happily married with a 14 month old daughter.
Very true. My 43 yr old wife has put sunscreen on her face everyday since she was 16 and now has less wrinkles around her eyes than most women in their mid 20's.