The #1 Skill In Selling Options

Discussion in 'Options' started by OneGlanceTrader, Oct 22, 2022.

  1. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Stop discriminating against third-world countries!! :D Unprotected sex in any country is bad.
     
    #31     Oct 23, 2022
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  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I’ve been trading from the short vol side for 15 years. I only lost money in 3. And all those losses were less than 10percent.

    Short vol doesn’t blow you up. Leverage does.


     
    #32     Oct 23, 2022
  3. taowave

    taowave

    87 had to be put selling...What else could it be???

    VOL exploded to 200 plus and clearing firms forced traders to close short put positions in the hole as they had 10 bucks in their account...

    The opening fills to cover puts were so insanely priced,the exchanges tried to get market makers to adjust pricing well after the trade..if I remember correctly,days later









     
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    #33     Oct 23, 2022
  4. It's been, what, just over a week since SPX realized like 5% in one day with VIX implying well under 2% (<30 / 16) for the month???

    How quickly people forget.
     
    #34     Oct 23, 2022
  5. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Buying puts after the sell off was a permanent impairment of capital. L

     
    #35     Oct 23, 2022
  6. destriero

    destriero

    This is the dumbest mofo-thread I've ever read. I have cursed the OP's children.
     
    #36     Oct 23, 2022
  7. ETJ

    ETJ

    Try again. Think parity. Ironically, J P M pre-Bear Sterns ran the benchmarks. 87 was pre-Glass Steagall. So limited Institutional participation. The world evolved around the OEX. The funny part of this - the OCC was unable to risk calculate for options priced over $99. Their systems could not carry an option over $99. If you were a MM and sold an option for $3 and it last traded at $102 - it showed on your sheets (yes sheets back then) at a profit.

    What strategy lost the most money?
     
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    #37     Oct 23, 2022
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  8. taowave

    taowave

    Still not sure where you are going..I traded OEX and XMI. I knowxhow much I sold puts for( long conversions) on the opening.Cant imagine anyone losing more money than naked put sellers..
     
    #38     Oct 23, 2022
  9. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    less than 10%? That's like what? 9.95%?? That's still a lot. On a $100K portfolio let's say, you would've lost close to $10K, that's 6 months of mortgage payments for somebody. Remember we are talking about retail traders here not some big-shot institutions that have trillions of dollars of assets. Even if you shrink that portfolio to $10K, 10% is still $1K, that's still 5 weeks of grocery for a family. So basically one loss, that entire family doesn't get to eat for 5 weeks assuming the trader is playing with only $10K of their savings.
     
    #39     Oct 23, 2022
  10. ETJ

    ETJ

    If you ever read Ron Insana's book he has some great stories about 87. He was in the CBOE classroom and when classes were canceled, he just roamed the floor for the week.
    "Trader's Tales." It may be hard to find.
     
    #40     Oct 23, 2022