The $1 Billion Armageddon Trade Placed Against the United States

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by EON Kid, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. Humpy

    Humpy

    If I had my way I would lock the plonkers in their 2 Houses without food , water or sanitation until the stupid sods came to an agreement. And just to emphasize the point turn off the air conditioning. Nobody goes in or out until a deal is reached.

    I reckon they wouldn't hold out longer than
    about ............................

    2 hours tops

    they are really showing up democracy at its worst - the useless s*ds
     
    #51     Jul 31, 2011
  2. bone

    bone

    Stunningly wrong. Another beaut from the halls of ET.

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    #52     Aug 4, 2011
  3. Hahaha!! They should have bet the other way.
     
    #53     Aug 4, 2011
  4. it was a piker trade, 5k is nothing in that market
     
    #54     Aug 4, 2011
  5. CrackPipe

    CrackPipe Guest

    Although I'd agree the trade was quite ordinary, I still think bonds will hit the floor sooner rather than later.

    The recent rally is simply a knee jerk reaction to the recent decision to raise the debt ceiling - but thats the worst thing the USA could have done IMO. It's just delaying the inevitable. The underlying issues still remain. The decision is a sticking plaster on an axe wound.

    The yield on the 10yr is 2.44, vs 14.54 on Greek 10yr.

    Given that both countries are bankrupt, and in deep deep debt with little way out, and given the eventual efficiency of markets, armageddon for the USA is not so far away.

    If the USA want to do anything, they need to start raising taxes by 1% for everyone in the short term, and in the long term, start manufacturing stuff again....
     
    #55     Aug 5, 2011
  6. so how far in the money is this trade going to be now......
     
    #56     Aug 5, 2011
  7. Bernanke is gonna buy any selling. Who you kidding.

    Bonds are going higher! Bonds traders don't know any better than to buy bonds on this news.
     
    #57     Aug 5, 2011
  8. bone

    bone

    IN THE MONEY for the counterparty.

    But since you asked, let's calculate the settlements. (BTW, yesterday was the big anal sex bang for him.)

    DumbFuck sold 5370 ZN @ 124-03; today's settlement is 127-015; so, on ZN, he is: ( $ 15,858,281 )

    DumbFuck sold 3100 ZB @ 125-01; today's settlement is 132-06; so, on ZB, he is: ( $ 22,184,375 )

    So, DumbFuck is marking down $38M and change - and that is much much much better than yesterday's settlement.

    Moral of the Story: Volume Means Nothing. You Get Paid On Price. Somebody took the other side of that trade for a reason. In fact, that size is a very common, routine observation. Never trust a market story written by a part-time firefighter who never saw a CBOT Treasury live order book in his life.
     
    #58     Aug 5, 2011