The $1 Billion Armageddon Trade Placed Against the United States

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by EON Kid, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. bone

    bone

    For sure. The author has never seen an actual CME or Eurex order book in his life and obviously doesn't have an inkling about the notional value of the swaps and cash markets that get traded.

    Incredibly common, routine occurrence for size like that to trade.
     
    #31     Jul 27, 2011
  2. Fed @ work.
     
    #32     Jul 27, 2011
  3. CrackPipe

    CrackPipe Guest

    oooooh dear....

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/43914334

    We're getting close to USA = junk status folks! Maybe the gold bugs were on to something :D

    How much gold is in Fort Knox anyway? Answers on a post card please. Does the fact that nobody knows the answer raise further concerns on USA's ability to repay its debt?

    QE3,4,5,6,.....

    :confused:
     
    #33     Jul 27, 2011
  4. bone

    bone

    Put down the pipe, not even close.

    And FYI, the downgrade has been baked into the cake for quite a while now.

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    #34     Jul 27, 2011
  5. IF YOU ADD UP THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CONTRACTS MENTIONED BELOW (OVER 8 THOUSAND) THE TOTAL REQUIRED MARGIN IS LESS THAN $25 MILLION DOLLAR AS THE MARGIN REQUIREMENTS ARE LESS THAN $2,000 PER CONTRACT. THAT'S REALLY NOT A BIG DEAL SINCE THE BOND FUTURES MARKETS CAN ABSORB MUCH MORE THAN THAT AS FAR AS TRADING SIZE. COULD BE A HEDGE FUND OR SOME HOT SHOT CTA FIRM. NO BIG DEAL IN COMPARISON. BUT WHO KNOWS? HEY WHAT DO I KNOW? THE SCENARIO IS FAR WORSE THAN ANYTHING THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER FACED BEFORE. WE HAVE NOT BEEN HERE BEFORE SO WE HAVE NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO. WE ARE IN NO MANS LAND.
     
    #35     Jul 27, 2011
  6. bone

    bone

    Dude, with all due respect, having traded through wars and crashes and limit markets in both the pit and on the screen - this is way more political than it is practical. Look at the futures price action for God's sake and chillax. NP.
     
    #36     Jul 27, 2011
  7. Couldn't be further from the truth...

    http://prorevnews.blogspot.com/2011/07/who-holds-americas-debt.html
     
    #37     Jul 27, 2011
  8. I WAS NOT SPEAKING ABOUT THE BOND TRADES. I WAS SPEAKING POLITICALLY AND ECONOMICALLY.

    Like you I too have traded through MUCH. I started out almost 20 years ago on Wall Street and I have worked for several firms and I even ran a trade desk. I was in the market on 9/11 and in the fall of 2008. In all fairness we have "NOT" been here before.

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    #38     Jul 27, 2011
  9. Don't forget: SP500 long term chart chart warns of impending crash - http://bit.ly/x618
     
    #39     Jul 27, 2011
  10. did not you warn about a rally just 4 days ago?
     
    #40     Jul 27, 2011