Texas governor Rick Perry is targeting California businesses

I'm not saying that Texas is great, I'm saying that California is in state of decline despite the popaganda coming from Sacramento.

http://www.newgeography.com/content...phic,+and+political+commentary+about+places%2

 

Ah, I see. Perhaps you can explain why a lot of Californians are also moving to Washington State, Nevada and Oregon? Two states that have no income tax and one that has a low rate? Or maybe Washington State is also "moving south"?

 

Not to mention the "moving south" argument doesn't really hold water with California being as far south as one can go before hitting Mexico. If it was really about weather and climate, San Diego and La Jolla would be prime.

 

It was the intention of the genius Founders that America be "Individual State Government" centric... with a small/strictly limited Federal government. That way if a state got uppity, citizens could move to a more favorable state with better economic, regulatory, tax climate.... just as in current California businesses/citizens moving away from a toxic environment to one more friendly.

With the Federal Government being so large and overbearing, a change of venue is of relatively small value now. But still....

The Founders were ADAMANT about the their precious new USA NOT EVER HAVING (1) a large, overbearing Federal Government, and (2) a Central Bank.

They were RIGHT! We've got both and look at the mess we're in!!

 

Perhaps you need to acknowledge that people move for reasons other than "high taxes".

 

The country's first central bank was signed into law by Washington with the support of Hamilton.Another founding father (James Madison) signed a bill for the 2nd central bank after the first banks charter expired

A lot of actions The founders took when they became President support the argument that once in power they were for a big Federal Government

 

That's just nonsense. Creation of a bank to oversee the nations finances is not a sign of desired big government.

 

Scataphagos said the founding fathers were against central banks yet 2 of them signed laws approving them as president

Its like modern day republicans,they are for small government until they get into the white house

 

Woodrow Wilson (perhaps the only president in USA history worse than Odumbo... subject to debate... I have them ranked #1 and #2 worst), claimed on his death bed... he was "sorry for what he did to America" in doing a "late night, closed door" signing of the bill which created the Fed.

 

Probably False.Nobody can point to a clear source of Wilson saying he regretted creating The Fed




http://www.salon.com/2007/12/21/woodrow_wilson_federal_reserve/


The unhappiness of Woodrow Wilson


Did the president lament the day he "unwittingly ruined" his country by creating the Federal Reserve?



Did Woodrow Wilson bitterly regret his role in creating the Federal Reserve? Some readers of my post yesterday on Ron Paul and the Federal Reserve believe so. Two of them proffered an identical quote as evidence.

I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world — no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.

On the hundreds of Web sites on which this quote appears, it is typically taken as proof of Wilson’s remorse at handing over control of the nation’s money supply to a cabal of Wall Street money men. A common framing: “Woodrow Wilson signed into effect the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. And said the following just six years later.” Even the Wikipedia page for Woodrow Wilson includes the quote, as proof that “Historians generally agree that Wilson hated the Federal reserve, and it made him, by his own word, “a most unhappy man…”

Frequency of repetition doesn’t make for reliable sourcing, however, and convincing documentary evidence that Wilson uttered such words, in reference to his role creating the Federal Reserve, is hard to come by. In fact, the available evidence suggests that the quote is an after-the-fact fabrication made by splicing together passages of different Wilson statements that have nothing at all to do with the Federal Reserve.

Two separate portions of the quote appear in The New Freedom: A Call for the Emancipation of the Generous Energies of a People,” published in 1913. “The New Freedom” is a distillation of campaign speeches Wilson made while running for President in 1911.

On page 185 there is the following section:

A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men who, even if their action be honest and intended for the public interest, are necessarily concentrated upon the great undertakings in which their own money is involved and who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.

And on page 201:

We are at the parting of the ways. We have, not one or two or three, but many, established and formidable monopolies in the United States. We have, not one or two, but many, fields of endeavor into which it is difficult, if not impossible, for the independent man to enter. We have restricted credit, we have restricted opportunity, we have controlled development, and we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world — no longer a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

Now, this is all good rabble-rousing stuff, but its relevance to the creation of the Federal Reserve is nonexistent. The speeches these quotes were adapted from were delivered before the Federal Reserve was created. And as for the melodramatic utterance: “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country,” well, so far, the sourcing well is coming up dry.

Some may question whether such historical nitpicking is relevant to the current presidential campaign. They may do so as they please. But if you want to engage in conspiracy theory, it’s a good idea to get your facts straight.

UPDATE: Via e-mail, John M. Cooper, a professor of history at the University of Wisconsin, and the author of several books on Woodrow Wilson, writes:

“I can tell you categorically that this is not a statement of regret for having created the Federal Reserve. Wilson never had any regrets for having done that. It was an accomplishment in which he took great pride.”









http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson#Misattributed



I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world: no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.

Attributed in Shadow Kings (2005) by Mark Hill, p. 91; This and similar remarks are presented on the internet and elsewhere as an expression of regret for creating the Federal Reserve. The quotation appears to be fabricated from out-of-context remarks Wilson made on separate occasions and two leading sentences that have no clear source:


I have ruined my country.
No known source from Wilson, but possibly a misattribution of remarks by Sidney Sonnino at the Paris Peace Conference (1919), criticizing Wilson's treaty framework as unfair to Italy. See Margaret Macmillan (2002), Paris 1919.


A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit.…
"Monopoly, Or Opportunity?" (1912), criticizing the credit situation before the Federal Reserve was created, also in The New Freedom (1913), p. 185
We have come to be one of the worst ruled… Governments….
"Benevolence, Or Justice?" (1912), also in The New Freedom (1913), p. 201
The quotation has been analyzed in Andrew Leonard (2007-12-21), "The Unhappiness of Woodrow Wilson" Salon:
I can tell you categorically that this is not a statement of regret for having created the Federal Reserve. Wilson never had any regrets for having done that. It was an accomplishment in which he took great pride.
John M. Cooper, professor of history and author of several books on Wilson, as quoted by Andrew Leonard




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