Tesla uses AMD chips in China

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by VicBee, Nov 27, 2021.

  1. JSOP

    JSOP

    What's wrong with thanking Tesla? Why can't China do that?
     
    #11     Nov 27, 2021
  2. VicBee

    VicBee

    I'm sure they've thanked each other ceremoniously many times. The relationship is strong, everyone profits from it, all is good.
     
    #12     Nov 27, 2021
  3. JSOP

    JSOP

    I thought you put me on the "Ignore List". LOL

    What is this? Couldn't resist to look and then respond?? LOL So not only China doesn't know how to thank and appreciate others but its trolls don't even have the discipline to not read and respond to someone that they have decided to ignore? LOL If you REALLY have put me on "Ignore", you would've had to log off ET to read the entire thread to see my response IF you don't have an alternative user logged in. You would go through that much trouble just to read my posts? Awwww...

    The US and the West are not demanding anything. We don't really look for paybacks when we give and/or do things to and for others although a "thank you" or acknowledgement would be nice. Everybody deserves of a "thanks" as long as they did and/or gave something regardless whether they benefited or not. China or the CCP just doesn't have a heart or mind that's big enough to understand it. It's ok we understand. Daddy understands. ;)
     
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    #13     Nov 27, 2021
  4. VicBee

    VicBee

    Is that so? Ever heard of the Marshall Plan, the one when the US "gifted" Europe billions for reconstruction after WW2? It required a reduction of interstate barriers, the dropping of many regulations and the buying US made products at a time when all of the Euro nations where trying to rebuild their national economies
    "The largest recipient of Marshall Plan money was the United Kingdom (receiving about 50% of the total), but the enormous cost that Britain incurred through the "Lend-Lease" scheme was not fully re-paid to the US until 2006." Wikipedia.

    Just learn a thing or two before blabbering nonsense.
     
    #14     Nov 27, 2021
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  5. JSOP

    JSOP

    Yes I have learned a thing or two. I have learned not to ever trust what you write and I was right to do so. You paraphrased and omitted the most important part of the Marshall Plan out of context to make it look like that US somehow required something in return for the financial restructuring aid to Europe for rebuilding Europe. The entire description of the Marshall Plan from Wikipedia is the following:

    "The Marshall Plan (officially the European Recovery Program, ERP) was an American initiative passed in 1948 for foreign aid to Western Europe. The United States transferred over $13 billion (equivalent of about $114 billion[A] in 2020) in economic recovery programs to Western European economies after the end of World War II. Replacing an earlier proposal for a Morgenthau Plan, it operated for four years beginning on April 3, 1948.[1] The goals of the United States were to rebuild war-torn regions, remove trade barriers, modernize industry, improve European prosperity, and prevent the spread of communism.[2]
    The Marshall Plan required a reduction of interstate barriers, a dropping of many regulations, and encouraged an increase in productivity, as well as the adoption of modern business procedures.[3]"

    The text in blue above was what you removed. The removal of interstate barriers and the dropping of many regulations were necessary because it encouraged an increase in productivity and adoption of modern business procedures. It wasn't to solely benefit USA; it was to help Europe get ahead.

    And not only that, Wikipedia went on further to describe the plan:

    "
    The Marshall Plan aid was divided among the participant states roughly on a per capita basis. A larger amount was given to the major industrial powers, as the prevailing opinion was that their resuscitation was essential for the general European revival. Somewhat more aid per capita was also directed toward the Allied nations, with less for those that had been part of the Axis or remained neutral. The largest recipient of Marshall Plan money was the United Kingdom (receiving about 50% of the total), but the enormous cost that Britain incurred through the "Lend-Lease" scheme was not fully re-paid to the US until 2006.[4] The next highest contributions went to France (8%) and West Germany (12%). Some eighteen European countries received Plan benefits.[5] Although offered participation, the Soviet Union refused Plan benefits, and also blocked benefits to Eastern Bloc countries, such as Hungary and Poland.[6] The United States provided similar aid programs in Asia, but they were not part of the Marshall Plan.[C]"

    Again, the text in blue above is what you so conveniently omitted. US distributed the restructuring plan among all of the European nations, even including the former Axis power nations, the countries that fought against the United States during WWII. In other words, United States even gave money to its former enemies!! West Germany received even higher % than France, an allied nation!! And also notice United States also provided similar aid program in Asia. Am I hearing a "thanks" from China?? LOL

    Nice spin but no, it didn't work. United States really did try to help Europe after WWII unlike China, who with its "One Belt One Road" initiative, forced countries that are located at geopolitically strategic points to take on unnecessary infrastructure projects built by China financed by loans by China that China knows are well beyond their ability to pay and then forced those countries to sell to China either their sovereign land or the infrastructure project that China built thus taking control of geopolitical chokepoints.

    Btw, Sri Lanka wants its port back and Pakistan wants its train station back.
     
    #15     Nov 28, 2021
  6. thecoder

    thecoder

    Hey @JSOP you propaganda idiot, you surely do have an inferiority complex by demanding that others should thank the US of Arseica. There is no reason to thank, much the opposite... :) Think about it and do something against the numerous war crimes committed by your so beloved sicko war governments (remember Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia, Yemen, ...? The many regime-changes committed by your CIAassess? The list of US crimes committed since WW2 in the world is practically endless).
    As I told, I dislike such wrong US geopolitics, not its people.

    Hey, I even served in the US Army (USAREUR) for 4 years, as a foreign national, in US Army uniform! In their so called CSG (Civilian Support Groups; s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Europe_and_Africa#Supporting_organizations ) here over in Europe. :) Man, I must have been so naive then some 30+ years ago... Though I had a responsible job, incl. being the responsible guy for the hand weapons (rifles (the famous AR-15's ! :)), pistols, ammunition), as well for NBC protective equipment like gas masks etc) :)
     
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  7. JSOP

    JSOP

    LOL US Army would allow a foreign national to serve in there? What happens when US one day really goes into war, is it going to expect traitors like you to fight for it? LOL Now you are making up shit just to spread your propaganda garbage? Pathetic!!

    What happened to ignoring me? LOL
     
    #17     Nov 28, 2021
  8. thecoder

    thecoder

    @JSOP, in the above link of mine, read this: "6981st Civilian Support Group, Germersheim".
    I've been in a different unit, in a different city.
    I've been throughout all the years loyal to the US, till 2014 or so, when I saw what it did in Ukraine, all the media lies, and then repeated the same lies in and about Syria...

    I guess most of the people who have worked for the Yankee Dollar later came to the conclusion that they served and worked for a lying criminal empire... Of course I'm disappointed, also of myself b/c I couldn't see it then :-(

    Btw, I can also tell an anecdote from that old times:
    A US general stationed in the US came over to Europe on an inspection tour to visit also our unit. I had the duty to show him our locations and installations. He inspected everything very carefully, and saw that on a portrait of the then president Reagan his name was written as "Roland" instead of "Ronald"... :) Oh, man, what a shaet! Of course it was not my fault but the fault of the maker of that portrait... :)

    See also:
    https://www.thebalancecareers.com/can-a-non-u-s-citizen-join-the-united-states-military-3354092
     
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    #18     Nov 28, 2021
  9. cobco

    cobco

    They sell their daughter into prostitution. She is able to buy herself out, but she will never do such a thing, because she has to pay for her brother's education. A beautiful culture.
     
    #19     Nov 28, 2021
  10. maxinger

    maxinger

    AMD is in the uptrend.
    INTC is at the lower end of its range.


    There is something which AMD did and was correct,
    and INTC did and was wrong.
     
    #20     Nov 28, 2021
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