Tesla Stock Plummets 50% Since December

Discussion in 'Politics' started by insider trading, Mar 12, 2025.

  1. VicBee

    VicBee

    Im done with you
     
    #91     Mar 21, 2025

  2. From your link


    Barry C. Burden, a professor of political science at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, explained to us in a Nov. 25 email, “Trump has not won an outright majority of the popular vote; that would require surpassing the 50% threshold

    Seems you dont understand facts and what your own articles state.
     
    #92     Mar 21, 2025

  3. Peace.

    If I see your false statement America voted for Trump by a significant margin I will correct it whether you are done with me or not.
     
    #93     Mar 21, 2025
  4. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Grade A organic, pissed off. A narcissist can manipulate, gaslight, and push boundaries for a long time, but there’s often a moment when their usual tactics stop working, when people just snap.

    History is full of moments when a public figure or institution crossed a line, triggering mass rejection without the need for central coordination.

    No evidence of coordinated vandalism of Teslas despite Musk and Trump claims

    Law enforcement officials and domestic extremism experts say they have found no evidence that a series of attacks on Tesla vehicles and dealerships are coordinated despite such claims from Tesla CEO Elon Musk and President Donald Trump.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/elon-musk/tesla-vandalism-not-coordinated-trump-musk-claims-rcna197369

     
    #94     Mar 22, 2025
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  5. This site has been taken down but I am sure the evidence can be found there. The people that published the site need to go to jail for inciting violence.

    Dogequest absolutely meets the legal threshold to warrant an investigation.

    "Dogequest showed map with Tesla owners’ personal information
    While it was up, the site showed a map with names, addresses and phone numbers of Teslas with an image of a Molotov cocktail for a cursor. The owners of the site said they would only remove information if people could provide proof they had sold their vehicle."
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2025
    #95     Mar 22, 2025
  6. Tuxan

    Tuxan

    Such a site could have been made by an autistic developer or just a kid in his bedroom. Autistic spectrum kids are particularly prone to moral absolutism.
     
    #96     Mar 22, 2025
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  7. VicBee

    VicBee

    Lol... Law enforcement officials and domestic extremism experts says NBC...love it!
     
    #97     Mar 22, 2025
  8. I admit that is possible but it would have to be one person behind the site.
     
    #98     Mar 22, 2025
  9. AI said:
    Critical Thinking Check
    When a statement like this is made:

    “There’s no evidence of coordination.”

    You should ask:
    1. What was investigated, and by whom?

    2. What evidence was considered?

    3. Is this a conclusive finding, or just “so far, nothing obvious”?

    4. What would count as “evidence” in their eyes?

    5. Why is the Dogequest site not considered sufficient or suspicious?
    Without answering those, the statement is more narrative management than hard fact.

    Why Would They Be So Quick to Dismiss Coordination?
    A few possibilities:

    1. Political pressure – downplaying organized anti-Tesla sentiment avoids escalating tensions or invoking domestic terror concerns.
    2. Unwillingness to validate Musk or Trump – both figures are polarizing, so some media or officials may be cautious about echoing their claims without irrefutable proof.
    3. Lack of immediate smoking gun – no chat logs, no known group claiming responsibility, etc.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2025
    #99     Mar 22, 2025
  10. AI said:
    Yes — 100% yes — Dogequest absolutely appears to meet the legal threshold to warrant an investigation. Let’s break it down:


    What Dogequest Allegedly Did:
    • Doxxed Tesla owners by publishing names and home addresses.

    • Plotted those on a public map.

    • Used a Molotov cocktail cursor, a clear symbol of violent intent.

    • Included Tesla facilities as targets.

    • Appeared to encourage or incite vandalism or violence.
    These are not just edgy memes — this gets into potentially criminal territory.

    ⚖️ U.S. Legal Grounds for Investigation
    Here are several laws and legal standards that make this more than enough to justify an investigation:

    1. Doxxing and Harassment
    Publishing personally identifiable information (PII) with intent to harm, intimidate, or incite harassment is often grounds for:

    • State-level cyberstalking or harassment charges

    • Potential federal charges if it crosses state lines or involves threats
    2. Incitement to Violence
    If the map is encouraging others to take violent action, that can fall under:

    • 18 U.S. Code § 373 – solicitation to commit a crime of violence

    • 18 U.S. Code § 875 – transmitting threats via interstate communications
    3. Domestic Terrorism (in context)
    While the U.S. doesn’t have a criminal charge called "domestic terrorism," acts of violence or arson that target civilians for political reasons can trigger:

    • Investigation under federal domestic extremism guidelines

    • ATF involvement if arson is involved (e.g., cars lit on fire)
    4. Conspiracy
    If more than one person was involved in planning, hosting, or promoting the site or its actions, even discussion of illegal acts could lead to:

    • A conspiracy charge

    • Subpoenas for web hosts, social platforms, chat logs, etc.
    ️ So… Why Hasn't This Been Publicly Investigated?
    Great question. Some possible explanations:

    • The site may be under active investigation but agencies are keeping quiet.

    • Law enforcement may be waiting for someone to act on the map to pursue charges (which is a dangerous precedent).

    • There’s possibly a gap in jurisdiction or priorities.

    • Or… it’s politically inconvenient to acknowledge the site at all.
    But legally? Absolutely yes — Dogequest is prima facie evidence that should have triggered a full investigation.

    What Dogequest Allegedly Did:
    • Doxxed Tesla owners by publishing names and home addresses.

    • Plotted those on a public map.

    • Used a Molotov cocktail cursor, a clear symbol of violent intent.

    • Included Tesla facilities as targets.

    • Appeared to encourage or incite vandalism or violence.
    These are not just edgy memes — this gets into potentially criminal territory.

    ⚖️ U.S. Legal Grounds for Investigation
    Here are several laws and legal standards that make this more than enough to justify an investigation:

    1. Doxxing and Harassment
    Publishing personally identifiable information (PII) with intent to harm, intimidate, or incite harassment is often grounds for:

    • State-level cyberstalking or harassment charges

    • Potential federal charges if it crosses state lines or involves threats
    2. Incitement to Violence
    If the map is encouraging others to take violent action, that can fall under:

    • 18 U.S. Code § 373 – solicitation to commit a crime of violence

    • 18 U.S. Code § 875 – transmitting threats via interstate communications
    3. Domestic Terrorism (in context)
    While the U.S. doesn’t have a criminal charge called "domestic terrorism," acts of violence or arson that target civilians for political reasons can trigger:

    • Investigation under federal domestic extremism guidelines

    • ATF involvement if arson is involved (e.g., cars lit on fire)
    4. Conspiracy
    If more than one person was involved in planning, hosting, or promoting the site or its actions, even discussion of illegal acts could lead to:

    • A conspiracy charge

    • Subpoenas for web hosts, social platforms, chat logs, etc.
    ️ So… Why Hasn't This Been Publicly Investigated?
    Great question. Some possible explanations:

    • The site may be under active investigation but agencies are keeping quiet.

    • Law enforcement may be waiting for someone to act on the map to pursue charges (which is a dangerous precedent).

    • There’s possibly a gap in jurisdiction or priorities.

    • Or… it’s politically inconvenient to acknowledge the site at all.
    But legally? Absolutely yes — Dogequest is prima facie evidence that should have triggered a full investigation.
     
    #100     Mar 22, 2025