Tesla is Slowly Pushing Germany Into Recession

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  1. guru

    guru

    https://www.ccn.com/tesla-is-slowly-pushing-germany-into-recession/


    • Germany is on the brink of recession after growth slowed to zero in the last quarter.
    • The economy is being dragged down by a seismic slump in car manufacturing.
    • The Tesla effect – and the shift to electric vehicles – is leaving Germany in dire straits.
    Germany’s economy is on the verge of recession as its once-illustrious car making industry falters. It’s no stretch to say that Tesla has disrupted the very backbone of Europe’s largest economy.

    A German engineer put it best when he called Tesla an ‘existential threat’ to the entire German automotive industry and urged the country’s CEOs to ‘do better’:

    Your ambitions for electric vehicles are falling short of consumer expectations. Those expectations have been set from your strongest competitor today and in the future, Tesla.

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    The Tesla Model 3 is outselling every major German rival in US sales and in Europe. Source: CleanTechnica
    Germany on the brink of recession
    The latest economic figures out of Germany aren’t pretty: zero growth for the fourth quarter. The country is now teetering on recession.

    Andrew Kenningham of Capital Economics stated:

    We think the economy will continue to flirt with recession in the first half of this year.

    Chief among the problems is a rapid decline in auto manufacturing and exports.

    Germany’s car industry facing its Detroit moment
    Reuters compared the challenge facing Germany with 1970s Detroit, where a rapid decline in the auto industry decimated the entire city.

    This is no exaggeration.

    Germany’s auto industry has slumped to a 22-year low, putting almost 1 million jobs at risk. A tenth of those jobs are expected to disappear in the next decade. Cuts will take place at carmakers themselves (BMW, Volkswagen, Daimler) and suppliers in the region (Michelin, Bosch, Continental).

    In some areas of the country, auto-workers make up 15% of the workforce. The effect of these cuts on spending, consumption and GDP is hard to even quantify.

    Volkmar Denner, CEO of Bosch after announcing thousands of jobs cuts at the auto supplier, noted:

    It could well be that we have passed the peak of automotive production.

    Tesla domination spreads to Europe
    Most of the challenges facing Germany’s automative industry can be traced to the rising demand for electric cars.

    When Tesla launched the Model 3 in Europe last year, it instantly outsold rival sedans at BMW and Mercedes. It was the third best-selling car, period, in December. Elon Musk is now readying a Tesla gigafactory in Germany itself to capitalize on demand.

    US car sales peaked in 2016 and have been decreasing ever since, while EV sales are increasing year by year – German engineer.

    Problem is, electric cars don’t require the same workforce to build. As Reuters writes, ‘electric cars provide less assembly work than combustion engine vehicles.’

    Stefan Bratzel, German Center of Automotive Management explained:

    The transition [to electric] could well mark the end of the golden age for cars as a mass employer.

    The Tesla effect
    This isn’t just about Tesla’s sales numbers either. It’s a bigger shift. From day one, Tesla’s goal has been to ‘accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy.’

    They’ve been incredibly successful. Tesla has forced the entire automotive industry to shift to electric vehicles and brought down the cost of EVs. It’s a move that Germany’s car companies have been too slow to adapt to.

    Indeed, a German engineer added:

    It is time to face the uncomfortable truth that the German automakers do not have a single car, be it a gas/diesel car or an electric car, in production or in development today that can compete with the Model 3.

    It’s not just Europe. Demand for Tesla vehicles in crucial markets like China is soaring. While demand for Germany’s cars has declined for 17 months straight.

    Analysts have speculated about this Tesla disruption for years, but with Germany now on the brink of recession, the reality is finally hitting home. If Germany’s car companies don’t act now, the country may enter a crippling downturn.
     
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  2. USA #1
     
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  3. Impressive but I do like Porsche. They are very fine. 911 Turbo S.
     
  4. MrMuppet

    MrMuppet

    I stopped reading right after this sentence...and I'm still in tears of laughter. The countries CEO? Really? Perhaps this guy read one too many tweets of CEO Dolan Trampf? XD Good lord.

    Don't believe all the shit you find on the interweb guys. EU is on the brink of a recession, but believe me: Nobody gives a flying fuck about Tesla here.

    Corona virus, credit issues of Italian banks, refugees from middle east, problems with Erdogan and - in the end - an economic cycle that will hit sooner or later anyways.
    Tesla? Not a thing. They're called dysons here and everyone pities the owner. When you see one on the highway they drive minimum speed, no music, no AC because they're afraid that the battery dies before they are home.

    By the way: https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2019-us-vehicle-sales-figures-by-model/
    These are real numbers and there aren't many models that are down double digits compared to last years Q4. But all Tesla models are.

    Always fact check pls.
     
  5. zdreg

    zdreg

    Show some respect.
    You won't be day trading US equities if a Democrat is elected.(ftt)
     
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  6. LOL!

    Not to mention the "green" aspect of Teslas.... that is if you discount all of the trees that have been felled to make room for their gigaplant.
     
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  7. BonScott

    BonScott

    I was in the BMW museum in Munich last month. They have all of their engines proudly on display,including the big old Focke Wulf 190 engine in the pic.
    Most of these big car manufacturers started as engine makers,and that is really their area of expertise.
    Good engines are hard to design, but when cars go all electric, any old fool will be able to put some batteries in a chassis and buy a good electric motor.
    BMW 801.jpg
     
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  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    1944 on that motor huh? That's pretty cool. Its amazing what human-kind accomplished in less than 40 years across all aspects of engineering. Just the metallurgy and machining alone on that engine is incredible, let alone the brains it took to design the damn thing.

    I sometimes wonder if we'd be as technologically advanced as we are, without all our wars or the fear thereof. Interesting conundrum.
     
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  9. BonScott

    BonScott

    Yeah. Its a 41 litre engine. No climate change protesters back then.
     
  10. That's your argument?
     
    #10     Feb 24, 2020