Tesla 2023

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by VicBee, Jan 1, 2023.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    What they ought to do is stop running ads like these disguised as "showcases"



    As to the rest....like I said, a recall is a very thorough process:

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    #881     Dec 19, 2023
  2. VicBee

    VicBee

    Pretty stunning demonstration of Tesla's FSD imho; not another company in the world can do that. But you can't stand it because it's Tesla?

    If you read the remedies, they are to increase fonts, simplify engagement and shut down the option if the driver fails to heed to the warnings. BFD.. certainly not deserving of the media attention it received.

    Also, let's be clear. Kids are doing doughnuts at major intersections, racing at 100+mph on busy freeways, or getting home drunk while driving. Should we recall all vehicles? Should we ban drivers under 30? Why don't manufacturers install software to throttle cars to stated speed limit? Or prevent drivers to get behind the wheels when drunk?
    My point is, the tech is there and reasonable human beings will abide by most rules. Some will break all the rules for thrills or whatever. General government reaction is to remove rights because a few don't respect rules.
    In this particular case, it's only asking Tesla to modify its software to make it more difficult for idiots who skip the use agreement. Maybe some were too stupid to understand what they were supposed to do, but I suspect the idiots will find workarounds.
     
    #882     Dec 20, 2023
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  3. VicBee

    VicBee

    Before Laurel and Hardy get going on this nonsense "news":

     
    #883     Dec 20, 2023
  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    "They're unbelievable because they literally cannot be believed."

    Well how can you argue with that?

    Because if they were believable then they would be .... ummm believed.

    So let's see, multiple actually news stories documenting incidents or some TwittHead err XHead I guess now is the moniker? That is until X becomes Chapter X lol.

    Merry XMas (sorry Elon we beat you to it with that one) all. Roading it in a few hours - till next week or the following.
     
    #884     Dec 21, 2023
  5. VicBee

    VicBee

    When nothing to say, say nothing
     
    #885     Dec 21, 2023
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Plenty companies have above level 2 autonomy. None try to pass it off as some "hands off"/FSD approach only to say otherwise in the small print and when shit hits the fan in a recall.

    https://autocrypt.io/the-state-of-level-3-autonomous-driving-in-2023/

    Did you read the remedies? Because I quoted them for you.

    I don't give a shit what people do, freedom is scary that way. I do care if a car steers into emergency response vehicles by itself though.


    You're quoting MY"tesla"weekend, what do you expect people to say?
     
    #886     Dec 21, 2023
  7. I don't think that is impressive at all. It is basically ideal conditions with good weather, not much traffic, very well marked highway lanes and good roads. So much of the country has terrible roads that at least half the time has terrible weather.
    It is also from 4 years ago. It is interesting how there is no updated video on Tesla channel showing off all the progress that has been made since that video. Probably because self driving becomes exponentially harder to make progress on the closer you get to self driving. The last 5-10% will probably take longer than all the time to get to that last 5-10%.

     
    #887     Dec 21, 2023
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  8. VicBee

    VicBee

    There are a number of YT of individuals testing the limits of the latest versions of FSD.
    But you're right, it's going to be exponentially more difficult to get it right all the time, because Tesla is global and FSD must adapt to all driving conditions. Again, FSD stands far and above all other efforts. GM's program is going out of business and MB's level 3 is an absolute joke not worth arguing.
    Anyway, Tesla's compute power is super computer level that no other auto manufacturers can match; it's already the standard. With Dojo hardware and the use of AI, FSD will evolve.
    It's pretty obvious that at some point, within 5 years for sure, Tesla will be leasing FSD to most other car manufacturers, like it's now starting to with their charging points. The tremendous cost of FSD development needs to be monetized and I'm not sure Tesla has quite figured out how to sell it to governments and consumers.
    In Europe, where government pays for or heavily subsidizes healthcare, the incentive to significantly reduce or eliminate vehicle accidents is quite high. Once Tesla's FSD is proven to be much safer than humans in all situations, human driving will quickly go the way of horses and carriage.
     
    #888     Dec 21, 2023
  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    That's an excellent point, and if had to guess, I suspect it's quite true.

    Edit:
    Kinda like Powell's 2% inflation target.
     
    #889     Dec 21, 2023
  10. ph1l

    ph1l

    Maybe it's not the media or bad drivers but instead ...
    https://news.yahoo.com/tech/tesla-owner-says-got-14-164758526.html
     
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    #890     Dec 21, 2023