Tesla 2023

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by VicBee, Jan 1, 2023.

  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    So you see no need whatsoever for unions?

    And please spare me the tropes about how many are corrupt, as if many corporations aren't as well.

    And the nepotism, see Ivy League Schools.

    And the racism (which is mostly a thing of the past), ditto Corps again.

    Individualism works for some, not all.
     
    #621     Oct 4, 2023
  2. You're so eager to attack my comments that you haven't fully comprehended what I've said.

    I said that,as a collective,they have power.Perhaps their only power.
     
    #622     Oct 4, 2023
  3. themickey

    themickey

    Biggest problem with large 'utes', they're difficult to park.
    They'll take up most of the housing driveway.
    Often will not fit into a house garage.
    Awkward at shopping centres trying to fit into a car space.
     
    #623     Oct 4, 2023
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  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    #624     Oct 4, 2023
  5. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    You were right earlier, we are talking past each other.
     
    #625     Oct 4, 2023
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    You recognize the issues so am not quite sure where you stand. I've said as much almost verbatim in the past. I've defended CEO's compensation since they have the luxury of low supply to their demand to negotiate salary upon hiring, low-skill workers don't so they need to create their own leverage by collective bargaining. Not every stand out is in a situation in life where they can look elsewhere be it from illness, family, or being content w/their situation short of salary. Labor can't diminish supply through their work like CEOs can by merging and acquisitions either. Labor can't do unethical moves to improve profits and juice board and CEO salary bumps.

    If we're so adamant to treat labor as a commodity that you can just mine or harvest, just look at unions as a contracting company renegotiating their contract. What's that? There's only one such company called the UAW and you can't fire it and get another one? Sux doesn't it? Maybe treat monopolizing moves w/the same disdain as unions are treated.
     
    #626     Oct 4, 2023
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  7. VicBee

    VicBee

    This reminds me of the same argument for having weapons; to defend yourself from a knife you want a pistol, to defend yourself from a pistol you want a semi auto, to defend yourself from... So people buy bigger and bigger vehicles because "it's safer in a crash" ....

    1. Yes, Americans are definitely fatter. I would recommend losing weight as an alternative to bigger vehicles.

    2. Yes, infrastructures are abysmal, even in the world's 5th largest economy California and ultra wealthy Bay Area. Again, I would suggest budgets prioritizing road fixing instead of buying trucks to circumvent.. We're acting like we're in a developing country!

    3 to 5. Nothing different from what America was in the 60s and beyond. Didn't need SUVs and trucks then.

    6. 40 mpg?!? You're taking the outlier to make a point now. The basic F150 gets 20 mpg and the V8 about 17 mpg and that's if you put nothing in your cab, lol!
     
    #627     Oct 4, 2023
  8. VicBee

    VicBee

    https://www.vehiclesuggest.com/tesla-cybertruck-may-undergo-significant-changes/


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    Tesla Cybertruck May Undergo Significant Changes, Here’s What’s at Stake
    By
    Varnika Jain
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    October 5, 2023
    The recent controversy that the design of the Tesla Cybertruck is unfit is gushing the market like a forest fire. This in turn has made people skeptical as to what will happen to the deliveries of the truck. Before we jump to the design errors, let me tell you how it all started.

    It is speculative that an email conversation between Mr. Musk with one of his employees started the whole saga of the impracticality of the design of Cybertruck.

    Tesla Cybertruck Design Flaws

    Tesla Cybertruck lies a striking paradox, where daring design meets daunting dilemmas. While Elon Musk’s brainchild has undergone production and made its expected entry into the EV world, it’s time to peel back the shiny exterior and expose the underlying issues.

    The critics are even calling it a Polygon joke. There is no doubt that the Cubertruck is futuristic in its design but some issues in the design are taking away the true character of the design.

    Build Quality Issues
    Amidst the fanfare, the biggest problem is misaligned doors and uneven surfaces that will emerge as a nightmare casting shadows on Tesla’s clean, futuristic vision. What was once sleek in digital renders now appears wobbly and unconventional in the car. This fundamental issue threatens to mar the driving experience.


    Frunk Fumble
    A closer look at the trunk, front trunk, reveals partial lining and missing trims, signaling that it may not be in its final form. This prompts questions about its actual capabilities and whether further adjustments are in the pipeline or not.

    Precision Predicament
    Tesla’s aspiration for sub-10 micron accuracy may be admirable, but as design expert Adrain Clarke points out, it overlooks real-world factors like thermal expansion and contraction. The precision benchmark, he argues, could pose production challenges.

    Crash Course Conundrum
    Beyond its polarizing exterior, there’s a practical problem – Cybertruck’s flat panels may not play well with crash and pedestrian impact regulations. These panels can be difficult to stamp and maintain their shape.

    Repair Issue
    For future owners, dealing with dents might become a nightmare. The angular design makes repairing imperfections a Herculean task, as the stainless steel body can’t be easily painted or touched up. This would mean that the whole body has to be replaced and this yields not only additional costs but reduces the ownership benefits. This can be a big off!!

    Baseless Claims
    Elon Musk is drawing inspiration from the LEGO design and Soda cans, stating that, “Just as LEGO and soda cans, known for their cost-effective, high-volume production, have set the bar, so shall we.” While Tesla has faced criticism in the past for fit and finish, it’s worth noting that the company has evolved.


    The journey toward excellence has led to improved quality over the years, with Tesla’s latest offerings, such as the Model Y, earning higher praise for their attention to detail and craftsmanship.

    Shaky Car Panels
    Clarke provided insight into the art of crafting car panels, describing the process involving colossal metal hydraulic presses. He emphasized that these panels inherently possess curves, serving as vital structural support during the pressing phase. However, when dealing with completely flat panels, a discord emerges. These panels, devoid of curves, are prone to unsettling vibrations, presenting formidable challenges in the pressing process of maintaining their intended shape.

    The Spare Tire Mystery
    The first enigma is a panel in the bed floor, adorned with bolt holes and perhaps a latch. It’s likely concealing a cavity designed to house a full-size spare tire. Practical, right? But there’s a catch – the Cybertruck’s sloped bedsides, narrower at the bottom than the top, could pose a challenge for carrying wide loads. Cornering with such loads might feel like a balancing act. Furthermore, these over-width payloads could stress the bed walls, raising questions about their structural integrity.

    The Accessories Conundrum
    Inspecting the bed area, you’ll notice an element just below the lighting strips that raises eyebrows. Is it a hinge for the bed cover, or perhaps something else? It’s a head-scratcher. What’s clear is that there don’t seem to be obvious mounting points for accessories like dividers or a bed cap. Tesla has hinted at a motorized tonneau cover, but the full picture remains off hands.

    The Loading Challenge
    Next up, the tailgate – it stands at armpit height for the average person. While this might not be a problem for everyday use, it raises questions about ease of loading and unloading. With high bed walls that seamlessly merge with the roofline, the tailgate becomes the primary point of access. Tesla has hinted at rear suspension adjustments for loading and unloading, but whether that compensates for limited accessibility elsewhere remains to be seen.

    Tesla Cybertruck New Design
    The image of two Cybertrucks charging side-by-side outside the Gigafactory in Texas was shared by the factory operator in September. These images can mean that Tesla is cooking something and the redesigning of the Cybertruck could be a reality soon. Let’s see what are some notable changes in the new design of Cybetruck.


    Low Ride Heights
    The low-ride heights are like Formula 1 cars, hugging sharp corners with a cool breeze. They’re built for speed, cutting through the air like a hot knife through butter. It’s a smooth ride that lowers the risk of tipping over, but here’s the rub – they’re not great at handling bumpy roads, often leaving your ride with a few scraps underneath.

    High Ride Heights
    Now, let’s shift gears to high-ride heights, where it’s all about conquering the wild outdoors. Think of it like hiking boots for your truck. Raising the ground clearance gives you the power to tackle rocky trails and uneven terrain with ease.

    And here’s where the Cybertruck steps in with its secret weapon – air suspension. It’s not just a flashy feature for the show, but a game-changer. Think of it as a superhero suit for your truck. With air suspension, the Cybertruck can adapt to any situation, whether you’re cruising downtown streets or venturing into the off-road wilderness.

    What Is Missing in the Tesla Cybertruck
    The finish line is in sight of the new Cybertruck, a few regulatory hurdles stand as immovable obstacles, ensuring that safety and compliance remain non-negotiable.

    Crash Testing
    Crucial among these is the rigorous crash testing required to earn those coveted safety ratings. Rumors have circulated about the Cybertruck facing real-world encounters that left it with some battle scars. However, the NHTSA, the gatekeeper of crash test ratings, has remained tight-lipped. The Cybertruck’s report card has yet to be revealed, leaving enthusiasts in suspense.

    Fueling the Uncertainty
    In the digital age, information flows freely, but Cybertruck’s absence on FuelEconomy.gov speaks volumes. This platform, where vehicles are officially registered, still lacks the Cybertruck’s presence. EPA officials have made it clear that a Certificate of Conformity is the key to unlocking this gateway, yet it remains elusive.

    As Tesla’s groundbreaking creation inches closer to reality, these regulatory puzzles remain unsolved, adding an extra layer of intrigue to the Cybertruck’s journey to the streets.

    Features of Tesla Cybertruck 2023
    • A Symphony of Power: AWD 4 Motor Power takes center stage with the AWD 4 Motor system, propelling you forward with relentless force.
    • The Road Less Traveled: 500 Miles A remarkable range of 500 miles ensures your journey knows no bounds, inviting adventure with open arms.
    • Electrifying Velocity: 250kW Buckle up for a heart-pounding 0-60 mph in just 2.9 seconds, unleashing the beast within.
    • Master of the Road: Autopilot Experience the future of driving with Autopilot, where technology takes the wheel.
    • Heavyweight Champion: 14,000 lbs This behemoth can shoulder a staggering 14,000 pounds, turning any job into child’s play. In 2024, the automotive landscape evolves, and you’re invited to be a part of the revolution. Get ready for a driving experience like never before!
    Thoughts of Industry Leaders
    Rivian CEO, RJ Scaringe, isn’t shying away from the competition. In a candid interview with The Verge, he couldn’t help but tip his hat to the Cybertruck, describing it as a product that’s making waves on the global stage. It’s a nod of respect from one industry player to another, hinting at the thrilling battles yet to come in the world of electric vehicles. Buckle up, folks; the race is heating up!

    Conclusion
    Tesla is gearing up to roll out the long-awaited Cybertruck in the coming months, and while the exact date for a grand delivery event remains uncertain, the prospect of this remarkable addition to Tesla’s lineup is on the horizon. Originally unveiled in 2019 with a slated 2021 delivery, the Cybertruck has faced its fair share of delays, but the moment of arrival is now drawing near.

    In the grand narrative of innovation, the Cybertruck shines as a symbol of audacity and ambition. Yet, beneath its reflective surface, it grapples with a slew of challenges that demand attention. As Tesla continues to refine this avant-garde creation, the world watches with a mix of fascination and apprehension, eager to see if the Cybertruck can navigate these design obstacles and truly electrify the automotive landscape.

    © 2023 VEHICLESUGGEST
     
    #628     Oct 4, 2023
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I don't even get why you're arguing this point. The market is the market, it doesn't have to fit your preconceptions. But here I'll play:

    0. I didn't even argue crash worthiness which imo hardly plays a role for pickup buyers unless buying for your wife.
    1. or they could keep the fat and drive a comfier vehicle
    2.or gov could do nothing and let ppl subsidize shitty infra by buying tougher vehicles.
    3-5 nothing different really? Home prices the same, labor cost the same, your dollar having the same purchasing power to afford the above the same, child rearing cost the same, no improvements in sexual education....birth rates all the same. Everything the same for the last 60 yrs.
    6. yes and the point is fuel economy has improved. What do you think the fuel economy for a 90's v8 sedan was compared to your 20mpg f150? And yes, 80-90% of the time people don't put anything in the bed.
     
    #629     Oct 4, 2023
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    tl;dr cliffnotes? Are they cancelling the godawful horror show? I doubt it given production level....."the dies are cast" so to speak.
     
    #630     Oct 4, 2023