Tesla 2023

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by VicBee, Jan 1, 2023.

  1. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Starlink is the communications business. Not the "we don't play sides" business.

    Elon gets holier than thou when he feels like it.

    Much like Twixxer, free speech except when it is about him.

    Fitting for someone raised in Apartheid South Africa.
     
    #541     Sep 8, 2023
  2. VicBee

    VicBee

    Whatever. You realize you don't have to necessarily reply to each of my posts, particularly if it's to say nothing.

    I'm a strong Ukraine supporter but I'll be damned if I'm going to agree with the US government bullying companies into doing its work. America isn't supposed to be like China ffs.
    If the US military doesn't have the capability to provide coms to Ukraine, then it's a gov/military problem, not a Starlink or Musk problem. It's also a US citizens problem, when our deficit is going through the roof, to demand accountability for where our near trillion tax dollars in military spending is going.

    Musk rightfully doesn't want Starlink overtly associated with taking sides in a military conflict. Starlink is a global coms provider, the first of several failed attempts to successfully provide high speed internet to remote regions of the world at an affordable price. It's a tricky proposition what with dictatorships around the globe controlling access and content their population can have.
     
    #542     Sep 11, 2023
  3. VicBee

    VicBee

    Today was a good day for TSLA, apparently on this account:

    https://electrek.co/2023/09/11/tesla-tsla-stock-surges-optimistic-dojo-supercomputer/

    Tesla (TSLA) stock surges from optimistic look at Dojo supercomputer
    [​IMG]Fred Lambert | Sep 11 2023 - 1:28 am PT
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    Tesla’s (TSLA) stock is rising in pre-market trading on an optimistic new report about the automaker’s Dojo supercomputer coming from Morgan Stanley.

    The firm massively increased its price target on Tesla’s stock because of it.

    Dojo is Tesla’s own custom supercomputer platform built from the ground up for AI machine learning and, more specifically, for video training using the video data coming from its fleet of vehicles.

    The automaker already has several large NVIDIA GPU-based supercomputer clusters, which are some of the most powerful in the world, but the new Dojo custom-built computer uses chips and an entire infrastructure designed by Tesla.

    The custom-built supercomputer is expected to elevate Tesla’s capacity to train neural nets using video data, which is critical to the computer vision technology powering its self-driving effort.

    At Tesla’s AI Day in 2021, the company unveiled its Dojo supercomputer, but the company was still ramping up its effort at the time. It only had its first chip and training tiles, and it was still working on building a full Dojo cabinet and cluster, or “Exapod.”

    A year later, at AI Day 2022, Tesla unveiled some progress on Dojo, including having a full system tray. At the time, the automaker was talking about having a full cluster by Q1 2023.

    The first quarter of the year came and went without any news of Dojo being in operation.

    But we finally learned that Dojo came only this summer with a plan to gradually ramp it up to a 100 Exa-flop capacity by the end of 2024.

    With Tesla’s move to have not only its computer-based visual perception being neural net-based, but now also the vehicle controls, the company claims to be compute-constrained with its self-driving effort, so therefore, Dojo could become a difference maker.

    Today, Morgan Stanley released a new note to clients in which the firm’s analysts did a deep dive into Dojo.

    Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas wrote in the note:

    The autonomous car has been described as the mother of all AI projects. In its quest to solve for autonomy, Tesla has developed an advanced supercomputing architecture that pushes new boundaries in custom silicon and may put Tesla at an asymmetric advantage in a $10 trillion total addressable market.

    The analyst argued that Dojo alone could add about $500 billion in value to the company.

    Jonas argues that Tesla’s singular focus on designing its own AI chips for the purpose of training AI on videos could give it a significant advantage in the space.

    On top of accelerating its self-driving effort, Morgan Stanley discusses the potential of Dojo becoming a direct revenue-generator – something that CEO Elon Musk has suggested before.

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    The new factoring-in of Dojo has resulted in Morgan Stanley raising its price target on Tesla’s stock price from $250 to $400, which is a massive change for large firm like Morgan Stanley.

    Here’s the breakdown of the price target change per business unit:

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    Tesla’s stock was up by as much as 6% in pre-market trading following the release of the note.

    Other factors could be contributing to the stock surge, including the increasingly likely potential of a massive UAW strike, which would negatively affect Tesla’s competitors and could further open up the market for Tesla in the US if the strike lasts.
     
    #543     Sep 11, 2023
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  4. VicBee

    VicBee

    This is why I see TSLA at around 315 by the first week of October. I took the last 2 significant long trends and extrapolated to this one. Today's 8.72% rise confirms the up trend.

    Factors contributing to the increase valuation are the expected demand bump due to the new styled Tesla 3, Tesla's significant market share increase in China from 7.5% to 13.2%, and Tesla's increasing other revenue streams.

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    #544     Sep 11, 2023
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    Isn't that what satellite internet is supposed to overcome? How can a local government restrict access if you can just get a small dish hooked up to your terminal? The Starlink Kit comes with the dish, a router and cables all included.

    Unless said gubment can jam the signals across their entire sky?
     
    #545     Sep 12, 2023
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Starlink itself has acknowledged, without going into details, that is has blocked/disabled/powered down whatever, signal to Ukraine.
     
    #546     Sep 12, 2023
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    Right. I was addressing VicBee's statement about dictatorship governments controlling access to the internet.
     
    #547     Sep 12, 2023
  8. mervyn

    mervyn

    unless the dojo is in the car, retracement to the gap up would be filled soon.
     
    #548     Sep 12, 2023
  9. VicBee

    VicBee

    A government could simply ban the use of the equipment.
     
    #549     Sep 12, 2023
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    Most governments ban recreational cocaine, but that sure doesn't seem to stop people from getting and using it.
     
    #550     Sep 12, 2023