?Terrorists don’t kill for their religion. It’s something else entirely

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by OddTrader, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. drcha

    drcha

    Most or all of these murderers (who murder in the name of religion, racism, gang warfare, whatever the rallying cry) are pathologically angry (probably legitimately so) because of things that happened to them back when they were in diapers. The race, religion, etc. simply becomes a convenient mechanism. It's natural for hurting people to find some way to think their hate and rage is somehow explainable or justified. But it goes back to deep, early injuries that they do not perceive.
     
    #11     Aug 16, 2017
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  2. kandlekid

    kandlekid

    Sure, I follow you. But if your religion says "Bless those who persecute you.", or "Turn the other cheek.". or "Give him your cloak. also", might that not be a tempering influence ? Perhaps the Islamic religion is enabling the terrorists ? I heard somewhere from someone, that if Islam was a religion of peace, then it's extremists would be extremely peaceful.
     
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  3. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Both texts say a lot of violent things and a lot of peaceful things. It's what you focus on as a result of your other perceptions of life - to drcha's point.
     
    #13     Aug 17, 2017
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  4. I believe you are a kind-hearted person. My suggestion, if you allow me, is to keep an open mind when learning any news or speech regarding negativity of other faiths.

    Instead, if possible, spend much time studying the history (old and modern) of one's own religion and the development of various denominations within a certain religion.

    (imo, a fundamental issue for any religion has been many believers use an outdated holy book written by humans to define/dictate/limit God. )

    Religion should be more about self reflections, rather than measuring others (believers and non-believers included).

    If you yourself can do all the things/standards that you mentioned above that would be good/perfect. But expecting others to follow the same things/standards you mentioned/performed could be entirely different matter. Just an temptation inside a person/believer, which should be carefully controlled. That way a believer would sometimes dislike others for why they don't do things/standards just like I do!?

    Every individual can behave differently. Whatever faith the individual have.

    BTW, how many Jesus we could find in our history. Not too many yet!

    My personal experience too. Just 2 cents. LOL
     
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  5. " Since nobody else will ask, I will... Does Islam have a problem? "
    https://elitetrader.com/et/threads/...lam-have-a-problem.309802/page-5#post-4494971

     
    #15     Aug 17, 2017
  6. Humpy

    Humpy

    The situation in the Middle East must be heaven for psychopaths who enjoy killing people.
    Probably no justice to catch them too.
    When law and order breaks down in some countries it is a great opportunity for the wicked and arms dealers.
     
    #16     Aug 17, 2017
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  7. Is it possible that, based on today's incident in Barcelona plus other very similar incidents elsewhere, the underlying reasons/causes for some Muslim terrors could be because they have 2 competing groups before any invading war by the western world, say group A that was holding power for too long time, and group B that is currently holding power.

    Now some of the group A members might become terrors, after losing power and forcefully freeing from the country after war. Losing their previous high-end powerful authoritative lifestyle. They might hate the western world too much and then implement their terror acts after migrating to western countries.

    As their revenge. ?? That means the old war is now re-ignited and still lasting?? Just in different form as an extension of previous war??

     
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    #17     Aug 17, 2017
  8. As their revenge. ?? That means the old war is now re-ignited and still lasting?? Just in different form as an extension of previous war??

    Very very alarming, worrying and disturbing!!!

    [​IMG]Anti-terror bollards around Southern Cross Station. Photo: Larissa Ham
    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/w...ed-across-melbournes-cbd-20170622-gwwu0y.html

    [​IMG]The bollards around Federation Square. Photo: Darrian Traynor

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  10. Humpy

    Humpy

    I hesitate to slag off the incompetent US, but the Iraqi situation illustrates a major flaw. How dare you I hear the patriots cry. But let me explain. The country was ruled by the minority Sunnis until the Allies toppled Saddam and tried to parachute in democracy. This meant the majority Shiites are now in power and the Sunnis out on the street with nothing left.
    So there was now no bureaucracy and the remnants of the defeated army turned to the extremists.
    It is strange that the US forgot the lessons of rebuilding Germany when it came to Iraq. The old police, bureaucracy and army were kept in place after WW2 in Germany and Japan. No problems.
    The only beneficiaries from US foreign policy in the ME has been Israel. They should be grateful that all their old enemies were smashed, with only Iran to go !
     
    #20     Aug 18, 2017