Terrorism. Is there anything to be done ?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Humpy, May 27, 2017.



  1. Globally: Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day.

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    #51     May 30, 2017
  2. Good1

    Good1

    I was pursuing the idea that the marriage of Hebrew literature, with Christian literature, gave birth to a response known as "Islam". I've said that Moohummeet's methods were cut and paste from the psychological warfare, as well as the hot warfare of those "peoples of the book". Mudammed had his own book, same general idea, if the intention is to capture mindshare, as well as capture territory.

    It should be obvious that java can't see that Sampson was a terrorist at worst, and a bully at best...implicating the god of the Jews in said terrorism.

    I am just trying to analyze the big picture clearly, in hopes of finding a solution.

    I don't see a problem in asking, from every "Muslim" in the U.S. and U.K. for a letter of allegiance.

    I also don't see a problem with an order for every "Muslim" (whatever the hell that means) to LEAVE their rhetorical cesspool, at risk of being DEPORTED upon further systemic murders by their faithful comrades, done in the name of their religion, along the lines of Humpy's suggestion.

    I can ask for this because I HAVE LEFT the "Christian" faith, and have disavowed it. And so, my hands are clean, so-to-speak.

    However, Humpy's suggestion will never work so long as the executive order is seen to be coming from Christian or Jewish executives...because their hands are not clean.

    Perhaps this is a good time to point out the importance of the concept of ALLEGIANCE.

    Did you know, after the American Civil War, many former southern soldiers were required to offer a letter of allegiance to the Union.

    Lee, the commander of the southern forces throughout the war, wasn't sure if he was required to do it...BUT SENT A LETTER OF ALLEGIANCE ANYWAY.

    My point is there is significant historic precedence for the requirement of allegiance, and the GIVING OF ALLEGIANCE...even by the former commander of the southern forces...SETTING AN EXAMPLE of what is possible among men.

    There is a "religion" out there that has declared war on the world several centuries ago, and shows every sign of taking continued action on it's edicts.

    That being the case, it's NOW TIME to demand evidence of ALLEGIANCE from any and all attaches to that bloody faith, with consequences otherwise.
     
    #52     May 30, 2017
  3. java

    java

    Killing people is wrong, doesn't matter what your excuse is. I was just watching this press conference and the guy asked what is Trump going to do to address poverty in the members of ISIS. I don't know, give them money and see if they stop killing people. That's what Saudi did. Typical democrat. Consumed with money and think it's the answer to every problem.
     
    #53     May 30, 2017
  4. Good1,

    I have spent a bit of time going over Sampson.
    As you used to be into "Christianity" ( I am not going to put in doubt the quality :D :D :D
    of the "christienhood" you went into), may I just ask regarding Sampson and Dalila:
    Did your pastor (?) priest(?) explained things such as :
    - Sampson is one the only two ( with Saul) of the old testament to be consecrated BEFORE their own birth. That is : an Angel was sent to announce his birth BEFORE
    his conception, and the mother was given instruction BEFORE she was pregnant.
    In the case of Sampson these were : no drinking, etc.
    - Sampson was consecrated BEFORE birth as a NazIrite ( different to Nazareite) :
    that means Sampson was forbidden to touch any corpse ( even family member when dead), any intoxicating drink ( wine, alcohol, etc), and cut his hair.
    Being consacrated BEFORE birth, Sampson was given ( blessed) with a unique
    strength. His strength did not come from his muscles, but by the anointment
    he had.
    - Now, God - even if he has a destiny for his "chosen for a task", still leaves the person
    with FREEWILL.
    - Sampson :
    1) did touch a dead corpse ( an animal's one)
    2) lied to his own parents when a kid
    3) became a drinker
    4) went into all types of "sinful behaviors".
    5) used his "God blessing" only for himself

    - Now, check how Dalila died
    - Now check when Did Sampson came back to God fully :
    when he was blind!

    I don't know if your priest/pastor did explain to your congregation,
    that whenever someone is consecrated to God, S %* A ^¨ T $£ AN will
    work very hard to mislead this person from as Young as possible. Sampson
    fell.
    Sampson : more to learn than what most assume.

    * * *
    Now you left "Christienhood" and feel that you have your hands clean.
    May I just point out that Bouddhism has been studying the human mind for 5,000 years non-stop; Christianity has been recording human mind for more than 2,000 years;
    Judaism ( Torah here exclusively, not talking about the Talmud), has been recording
    human mind for more than 2,000 years.
    Why not use what these people know ( obviously, one has to be able to discern
    "knowledgable" priests/pastors), and use your critical mind to check/select what is good and drop the rest ?

    Now, Islam is a bit singular :
    1) Some Catholics ( from some Jesuits saying) have been more or less
    involved in early Islam - childhood/teenage education of Muhammad(???)
    2) Some Jewish have been more of less involved in early Islam
    3) Muhammad being said to have been a victim of S;o/r!c%ery ( w ; i / t! c % h % c % raft):
    some ask questions about the effects of such things on the person.
    However, Islam has extremely good scolars who can, for instance, highlight:
    1) how/why people "sin"
    2) what lead people to "sin" ( for the cynics, those could learn how to corrupt
    people)
    3) also, how "Christiens" do not practice their religion well
    4) these scolars - strangely- used to be into some sort of ascetism,
    and their ramadan was zero food ( only pure water) for a whole month, and not what we see of people eating copiously every night.

    Basically, each of the religions coming from the Old Testament, have really "Saint"
    people. But these people are "Saint" for a reason : they can read people very well,
    and they are very instructed in understanding the Bible - as it is said
    "some will hear, but not listen; some will read, but not understand". Religion is in fact
    something very esoteric - aka a form of really hidden knowledge.

    ****
    Now, you talk about allegiances to Muslims, why not ask them to first show
    real allegiance to their own religion.
    - have they even studied their own religion? most have not, but claim loudly "A l l ... Ak...AR"
    - have they even done a real Ramadan ( aka just water for a whole month, and zero food
    for a whole month): most have not. But those who have, strangely are not really into
    decapitating other Muslims as it is taking place in the Middle East.

    Any more remarks?
     
    #54     Jun 3, 2017
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  5. java

    java

    yes, that is why I make the controversial statement that the United States is a very good environment for religions to flourish because they are largely kept separate from civic life but allowed total freedom to operate here. Although it is hard to keep Americans interested in spiritual matters when we have so many other choices.
     
    #55     Jun 3, 2017
  6. Wallet

    Wallet

    Samuel not Saul.
     
    #56     Jun 3, 2017
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  7. Somewhere in the world a chunk of ice is melting and you screwballs are worried about terrorism? Please, get your priorities in order.
     
    #57     Jun 3, 2017
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  8. Humpy

    Humpy

    All the surveillance and wire tapping etc . won't stop terrorism. There is a sickness in some of the youth of the western world which is now producing lone wolf terrorism. The only way to contain this is by having the cooperation of the people. Treat it as a serious sickness that can be cured imho.
    Little Mohamed's and little Jonny's family may suspect that he may be alienated from society and building bombs in their back bedroom. The cops are unlikely to know until after.
    Get the people to take an interest in the children's occupation. Special task force units can answer anonymous hotline calls. No violence should be needed in the early stages. Those that refuse to respond positively after treatment are another matter and probably a waste of space.
     
    #58     Jun 4, 2017
  9. Piptaker

    Piptaker

    #59     Jun 4, 2017
  10. Piptaker

    Piptaker

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    #60     Jun 4, 2017