Tell me why averaging down is a bad idea .

Discussion in 'Trading' started by joker542, Jul 25, 2019.

  1. volpri

    volpri

    Here are some examples of averaging down in MES and the ES this morning within 1st hour of trading.

    MES is first chart using various combinations but max average in size was 8 contracts. Gross 108.75


    mes 7-30-2.GIF

    ES second chart. Gross before comm 512.50 using 1,2 contracts
    ES 7-30-1.GIF
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2019
    #121     Jul 30, 2019
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  2. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Live? Real?

    First trade 8 positions....

    1. what was your actual over all profit?
    2. Where was your SL and total loss if hit.
    3. News spike say 5pts beyond SL.so worse case, total loss in that case?

    I bet you risked a lot for a very small profit and even a 90% win rate doesnt get you over all profitable.
     
    #122     Jul 30, 2019
  3. volpri

    volpri

    I have some last minute packing to do and a flight to catch. Will be back around Aug 13 if all goes well. Not sure I will have internet where I am going so I may not post anything until I get back. Nevertheless, here are the stats for the MES and ES trades above. The profit shown is after comm.

    The earlier profit was before comm. To scalp successfully you have to have strategies and tactics that facilitate a high win rate. I don't care about what "could" have happened. I care about what did happen. The death of scalpers is greed. I grab what the market gives me. I can always go back in. I don't worry about comm. Brokers have to make money too.

    When I get to hotel near airport I may have time to post my thinking as to why I took these trades. Once I am out of the country I may not have internet.

    gotta run bye

    MES
    mes 7-30.GIF

    MES cont....

    mes 7-30 2.GIF

    ES
    es 7-30 1.GIF
    ES contin….
    es 7-30-2.GIF
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2019
    #123     Jul 30, 2019
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  4. volpri

    volpri

    In Honduras. Haven’t a chance to trade. Not sure how long I’ll have internet.
     
    #124     Aug 1, 2019
  5. volpri

    volpri

    In Honduras... had a little internet today. Here is an example of scalping MES (micro ES) in night session..averaging down...taking what the market gives...not being greedy...all in a few hours. More could have been made but I went out to eat supper and after getting back traded some more. This is clearing after comm over 200.00 on one micro. The red are short entries magenta covering. Green are long entries brown exiting longs. Lines connect entries averaging down and go to exits of averaged down positions.


    8-2 MES.PNG

    stats1 8-2.GIF


    stats2 8-2.GIF
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2019
    #125     Aug 2, 2019
  6. It is not always bad to average down. I would recommend this strategy only for the long term investors. For day traders to benefit out of averaging down, the market has to be really volatile. But be careful about the market conditions, before you average down.
     
    #126     Aug 2, 2019
  7. volpri

    volpri

    Really? here are some averaged down trades in ES this morning.

    8-3 ES.PNG


    8-3 ES 2.PNG
     
    #127     Aug 2, 2019
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    That is going to bite you in the ass so hard one day, yer gonna' wonder why you ever thought it was an idea worth trying.
     
    #128     Aug 4, 2019
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    Don't do it with futures. BAD, BAD idea in this current volatility state.
     
    #129     Aug 4, 2019
  10. speedo

    speedo

    Volpri, you seem to be a competent trader. Why are you messing around with the micro mini?
     
    #130     Aug 4, 2019