Tell me if this setup is stupid

Discussion in 'Options' started by kj5159, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Some would find it cheaper to buy the hedge rather than do it inhouse - plus there is a lot of reciprocity in the industry. You buy your hedges from a broker who then sells your annuity. BNP just took a big write-off when they had an inadequate hedge for an index-linked note that was widely sold throughout the EU and other parts of the world. Some folks would rather pay to lay off the risk and as in the BNP experience - lay it off to a larger balance sheet. Clearly really discontinuous market can be a problem.
    Many of the index-linked annuities and CDs are hedged by someone other than the issue.
    With products like the Goldman one I posted, they are broadly sold throughout the e-discount broker community.
     
    #31     Mar 16, 2019
  2. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Here's the BNP headline from Bloomberg. I'm not near my Bloom, but I think the story should be in the ET archives.

    Markets
    BNP Loses $80 Million on S&P 500-Linked Derivative Trades
    By
    Donal Griffin
    ,
    Harry Wilson
    , and
    Alastair Marsh
    January 15, 2019, 11:01 AM CST Updated on January 15, 2019, 11:44 AM CST
     
    #32     Mar 16, 2019
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  3. kj5159

    kj5159

    Interesting stuff here, thanks for the info and replies.
     
    #33     Mar 16, 2019
  4. ETJ

    ETJ

    It's a big business and a great deal of the unexplained options block trading relates to structured products.
     
    #34     Mar 16, 2019
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