Technical Analysis = CRAP

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by Frits, Apr 27, 2011.

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  1. Ask the mods, it isn't me.

    I forgot all about that. Does bring up an interesting point about selling copyrighted material that isn't yours though.

    Ah, go have fun with the Canuks.
     
    #901     Jul 1, 2011



  2. I know it's not you.

    As far as the copyright, it was held by a defunct corporation at the time-- as you know, a copyright needs to be defended in order to have validity. Tough for a defunct company to defend even if they did exist, they didn't defend their rights therefore no issue. My ex specialized in copyright and entertainment law, so I dont believe I was violating anything at the time.

    Surf
     
    #902     Jul 1, 2011
  3. bone

    bone

    You know when a thread has deteriorated into a pissing contest amongst elves when I post something for you wonks to think about SERIOUSLY and the conversation does not change.

    Let me guess, about two of you really trade.

    The market is undergoing a paradigm shift - the only traders taking directional risk are the retail punters.

    Hopeless. Really. I tried.

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    #903     Jul 1, 2011
  4. Well, I've traded billions of dollars of Treasuries in my life, and even I'm not sure what your JPG is saying -- I guess that there's not much free money around for the arbs?

    Maybe I'm dense, or maybe you're not making an effort to explain yourself. Dunno.
     
    #904     Jul 1, 2011
  5. bone

    bone

    RK, I know that you know the point I am trying to get across - nobody other than the retail wonk is taking directional risk these days. This idea of some big trader scalping ES off a tic chart with a MACD does not exist with the big firms. This entire exercise about "Technical Analysis" is mental masturbation for the naive.

    RK, you know this to be true: shop around a scalping strategy for backing, or shop around a spread arbitrage strategy for backing. Which one gets the most interest at least in Chicago and NYC ?
     
    #905     Jul 1, 2011
  6. In either case, depends on how many cubicles full of C++ jocks you can show the prospective backer...
     
    #906     Jul 1, 2011
  7. bone

    bone

    Rodney, you disappoint. DRW, Ronin, Peak-6, HTG, etc. etc. etc.

    Been around lately ?
     
    #907     Jul 1, 2011
  8. So you're saying that nowhere in all of those spreads is a directional bet, even if only implicit?

    That seems a bit hard to believe. Somewhere, somehow, you're betting a direction in something, even if it's only a directional bet on the direction of the correlation as it approaches any number of standard deviations from its mean.

    You're sounding like a hammer making everything look like a nail here.

    Besides, what does the KIND of risk matter, so long as I am being compensated for that risk? If you are right on direction, you get compensated in proportion to your correctness, so what's the argument against taking directional risk? Your compensation for being right isn't discounted relative to other kinds of risk, after all, and that's what matters. One industry I know pretty well is insurance and insurance companies take all sorts of risks of different types and they know that some will be less profitable than others, based on the volatility of the risk and that if a lower volatility risk pays off more it's because of luck, in many respects. Same with financial markets, where someone who does get skilled at picking direction can probably make much more than someone whose skill is in lower-risk activities with less volatility, like spreads. If big banks are doing more spreads and less directional betting, all that really means to me is that they are willing to accept lower returns, for whatever reason. It could be that the people who are good at directional risk are not going to work for them, so that there is as much directional risk being taken as ever, it's just more spread out over a wider number of firms.

    I'll be the first to admit my knowledge of spreads is limited (and probably shows) but I do understand risk quite well and I know what makes sense when you talk conceptually about risk and how it relates to the spectrum of returns that can be generated.

    None of which validates the content of this thread, of course! I'm just sayin'.
     
    #908     Jul 1, 2011
  9. Yes indeed. My wife tells me that all the time.

    In Chicago a couple months ago -- thanks for asking. And I even interviewed at a shop on your list.
     
    #909     Jul 1, 2011

  10. Okay Dokay

    Game Set Match Anna
     
    #910     Jul 1, 2011
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