Tax on Trades Should Be Part of Rescue Plan, Some Democrats Say

Discussion in 'Trading' started by seasideheights, Sep 25, 2008.

  1. clacy

    clacy

    What "other things" are there? :confused:

    We've exported manufacturing. Now all we've got is ag and service, but we're outsourcing that too.
     
    #341     Sep 27, 2008
  2. m22au

    m22au

    Maybe they can amend the proposal slightly, and make (1) selling of oil futures and (2) buying of equities both tax-exempt.

    Oil up and equities down = bad
    Oil down and equities up = good

    What has the US come to?


     
    #342     Sep 27, 2008
  3. "other things", means 'innovation'. but nobody's ever clarified what we will 'innovate' and why 'innovation cant be outsourced.

    frankly, having been in tech from 1987 to 2001, and part of a field that 'innovated ' more than almost any field in history in that space of time and created more wealth in same period, i find that kind of insulting

    and that was 195,000 PER YEAR, plus about 65,000 per year L1 visas, plus the caps were not even enforced. those caps do NOT count renewals

    I took daytrading as "other things"

    but aparently, I didnt ask "captain, may I"

    so I guess I deserve to lose this occupation too
     
    #343     Sep 27, 2008
  4. This guy is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier. His precedent is in the period 1914 to 1966... lots of daytrading going on in those days for sure!! Maybe once he realizes that he will undergo a big net loss in tax revenues due to the death of the trading industry he will think it through one more time......

    I sent letters to my congressman and two senators explaining how it's bad on several fronts...
     
    #344     Sep 27, 2008
  5. bears21

    bears21

    if this law does pass watch how easy it will be to become a member of an exchange. nasdaq nyse arca these companies revolve around volume thats the name of the game. that is how traders are making a good living trading london, they get around the stamp tax because they are members of the lse. there will always be loopholes people no need to sweat it.
     
    #345     Sep 27, 2008
  6. You said it man.. there are always ways around these things but instead of discussing how mentally retarded Defazio is, we have to take action.

    1. Write your congressmen

    2. Start looking for loopholes
     
    #346     Sep 27, 2008
  7. So is 5 years really the new deadline? If that's true, I'm probably

    ok with that. That's plenty of time for the CME and others to

    develop alternatives (outside of the US) that may actually be

    better for us than what we have now.....

    American ingenuity isn't dead yet.....These giants are not going

    to just give up and shut down

    Many other countries would welcome what our politicians drove

    away......I'm usually a pessimist but this whole thing may turn

    out to be a blessing.. We may actually be using the "third finger

    salute" when all is said and done.........I welcome opposing

    thoughts.....
     
    #347     Sep 27, 2008
  8. That is what I said in my email to my reps, that an entire industry was going to go offshore....

    Here's another reason the transaction tax might not fly ever, it would affect hedge funds would it not? That is where the big money people have their money, no? Big money people will be writing THEIR congress people........
     
    #348     Sep 27, 2008
  9. jnbadger

    jnbadger

     
    #349     Sep 27, 2008
  10. "HAD considered"....past tense language here is encouraging....

    "The Senate aide said a number of specific ideas appeared to be gaining traction Saturday evening, most notably the concept of creating a "financial stability" fund financed by Wall Street and styled in the mold of the deposit insurance program run by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Lawmakers had considered levying a tax on some securities transactions to help offset the cost of the $700 billion rescue plan, but the idea of assessing fees on a wide swath of financial firms to help pay for current and future government bailouts had its proponents."

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122252502326482359.html
     
    #350     Sep 28, 2008