Tax on Trades Should Be Part of Rescue Plan, Some Democrats Say

Discussion in 'Trading' started by seasideheights, Sep 25, 2008.

  1. Klamath

    Klamath

    It's ironic that small independent traders as a group are very opposed to the sorts of shenanigans that led to this crisis, and that is who the transaction tax would hurt the most.
     
    #291     Sep 27, 2008
  2. hahhahahahahha! i just peed myself. were you born yesterday? how much did you contribute to his campaign? nothing? too bad then!

    read back on Libertad's post about the 1986 changes in real estate - i had people threatening to sue me if their deals didnt close by 12/31/1986.

    yeah, he's laying up awake a night worrying about you. the govt is so worried about us they borrowed and spent the Social Security Trust Fund, the FDIC Reserve Fund and every other
    penny they could get their hands on. and just last week they provided funds for foreign banks! govt has not balanced a budget or set aside a contingency since when? and no, Clinton's budget wasnt balanced net of the SS Fund theft!

    seriously, get a clue! :cool: his job is to get re-elected. they use fear and blame - we are just pawns - this is gonna get sold as "no cost to taxpayers" and then every little taxpayer group they can demonize & "F" is gonna take it dry and get TAXED...
     
    #292     Sep 27, 2008
  3. that's why it's so imperative that we plead this issue wisely

    we're innocent, didnt cause this, and dont benefit from it. we're the little guy, in many cases the little guy that DeFazio has tried to protect on other issues like H-1b

    we have to act like it - emotions are high all over the place

    i'm not saying i'm not outraged, this is like H-1b all over again for me
     
    #293     Sep 27, 2008
  4. so how that working amigo?:p
     
    #294     Sep 27, 2008
  5. nearly every immigration increase bill for the last 2 years has been blocked by opposition

    and if you were part of the solution (a numbersusa member like me), rather than a smart aleck on the sidelines, you'd already know that
     
    #295     Sep 27, 2008

  6. DeFazio's record shows that on immigration, he's stood up AGAINST the party line and lobbyist money

    anyone who knows anything about immigration can analyse this record and see that

    http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=OR&VIPID=677

    so what are you trying to acomplish here? does someone elses 'wasted time' trying to influence this really cost you?

    for those who are cynical and think it's hopeless, can you at least get out of the way of those who are constructive here and trying to do something?
     
    #296     Sep 27, 2008
  7. we need to seriously consider kicking out all illegal immigrants and deporting immigrants from the last 100 years, starting with the damn irish.
     
    #297     Sep 27, 2008
  8. Here's the actual letter DeFazio wrote, just for the record. I got it from this site: http://workinglife.org/blogs/view_post.php?content_id=9603

    September 23, 2008

    Dear Colleague:

    The Bush Administration is asking Congress to authorize the U.S Mint
    printing presses to crank out $700 billion to cover the illiquid assets
    of Wall Street. This will sink our current record budget deficit to
    levels never before imagined.

    The $700 billion is to protect Wall Street investors, therefore the same
    Wall Street investors should pay for this infusion of taxpayer money.
    The easiest method to raise the $700 billion from Wall Street is a
    securities transfer tax, a tax that has a negligible impact on the
    average investor, and provides a disincentive to short-term traders.

    This transfer tax would be on the sale and purchase of stock and more
    exotic transactions such as credit default swaps, options, and futures.
    A quarter percent (0.25%) tax on financial transactions could raise
    approximately $150 billion a year.

    There is considerable precedent for this. The United States had a
    similar tax from 1914 to 1966. The Revenue Act of 1914 levied 7a 0.2%
    tax on all sales or transfers of stock. In 1932, Congress more than
    doubled than tax to help plug the holes from the Great Depression. In
    1987, Speaker of the House Jim Wright offered his support for a
    financial transaction tax. And today the UK has a modest financial
    transaction tax of 0.25 percent, a penny on every $4 invested.

    In the past, economists such as Larry Summers, John Maynard Keynes and
    Nobel prize winners Joseph Stiglitz and James Tobin have supported
    financial transactions taxes.

    This tax could be easily implemented as the SEC currently implements a
    very small tax per transaction to cover its costs. All Congress needs to
    do is raise the rate by 0.25% and designate the new income to the
    general treasury to pay for the $700 billion.
     
    #298     Sep 27, 2008
  9. the bill is called the FUCK DAYTRADER TAX
     
    #299     Sep 27, 2008
  10. Isnt Jim Wright the guy who screwed anyone who flew in the southern half of the USA for the benefit of DFW airport? ie 'Wright Amendment?'
     
    #300     Sep 27, 2008