Tax help with capital loss carryover

Discussion in 'Taxes and Accounting' started by CReinhold, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. JackR

    JackR

    You currently have carryover of $1766. You are applying 2008's S/T and L/T losses of $792 against. Thus, you have $
     
    #11     Mar 11, 2009
  2. JackR

    JackR

    You are correct. You'll be able to use up the entire amount (1766 + 792 = 2558) this year. No carryover. I forgot you had other income this year.

    Jack
     
    #12     Mar 11, 2009
  3. CReinhold

    CReinhold

    ok. still when i fill out my worksheet, i'm getting zero.

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    line 4: 4766.36
    line 5: 1906.54
    line 6: 0
    line 7: 4766.36
    line 8: 0

    line 9: 1093.46
    line 10: 0
    line 11: 2859.82
    line 12: 2859.82
    line 13: 0

    clearly i have something in the wrong spot...
     
    #13     Mar 11, 2009
  4. JackR

    JackR

    As I said in my previous post you messed up last year on the 60/40 rule's application. The numbers you are bringing forward are therefore wrong. Redo last year's Schd D and Form 6781. It should result in something like this assuming Line 1 is $50K

    1. 50000
    2. 3000 (Can not be more than $3000 by rule)
    3. 53000
    4. 3000
    5. 1906 (S/T correct amount)
    6. 0
    7. 3000
    8. (1094)
    9. 2860 (L/T correct amount)
    10. 0
    11. 1094
    12. 1094
    13. 766

    That's quickly done but I think correct. If this doesn't work get an accountant to help.

    Jack
     
    #14     Mar 11, 2009
  5. if you are able to declare yourself as a business and have a "net opperating loss" you are able to carry that loss backward up to 3 years, and there is no limit on how much you can carryback
     
    #15     Mar 11, 2009
  6. CReinhold

    CReinhold

    Ok. I did redo my 6781 and schedule D prior to doing that worksheet. what i was doing wrong was first using the max $3000 in line 4, and using the 60/40 split from that which was $1800 and $1200. Then when i re-did it, i used the full $4766 and the 60/40 split from that.

    I see now that I am supposed to use the max limit of 3k on line 4 and use the 60/40 split from the full $4766, then i get the correct carryover amount. That's why i kept getting zero. Makes perfect sense now.

    Excellent. I do thank everyone, especially Jack, in helping me figure this out.
     
    #16     Mar 12, 2009
  7. Hi all,

    What tax software do you recommend that also includes IRS FORM 6781 /

    Thanks.
     
    #17     Jan 27, 2013
  8. rwk

    rwk

    I have used TaxAct for years, free for Federal. I prefer the downloaded version and do not e-file. I would e-file with the IRS if they allowed that, but they require that I go through an intermediary. I have more regard for my financial privacy than that.
    http://www.taxact.com/taxes-online/free-online-tax.asp?s=STD
     
    #18     Jan 27, 2013
  9. Thank you rwk. I'll check them out.
     
    #19     Jan 27, 2013
  10. Even tax professionals get this wrong a lot of the time. I'm using round numbers here, but I had a $30k net loss in 2011, and a $60k net gain in 2012. I interviewed an accountant who told me I could only use $3k of last year's loss to offset this year's gain. Keep in mind he was fully aware that both amounts were from the exact same instrument.

    I kindly shook his hand and got out of there ASAP.
     
    #20     Jan 28, 2013