Tara's Thread

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Emil Kraepelin, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. In a trading environment it's similar to those attracted to cults...

    1. Disenchanted with trading progress
    2. Intellectually confused with TA
    3. Needs encouragement and support
    4. Emotionally needful
    5. Needs a sense of purpose

    In my own experience I have found those with a perfectionist personality are very vulnerable, especially if they are intellectually clever and believe they can discover the way to trading Nirvana.

    However a hypnotist is looking for receptive subjects and asks a simple selection procedure like everyone interlocking their fingers and then asking who can't part their hands.

    Jack's lead in is that he will not instruct anyone who will not suspend critical thinking to begin with. He says he filters out those who want to do due diligence.

    Critical thinking is a hypnotists enemy and our best defense against hypnotism. You have to be craving something to accept Jack's initial terms of instruction as it runs counter to common sense.

    It's the needy intelligent, personality that craves an impossible dream and will drop their guard in exchange for the poisoned chalice that is most perfect for Jack's Stopped Critical Thinking Seamless Continuous Trash method.

    But the result is always the same: lots of almost suicidally loyal sheep that believe the sun is parked up Jack's ass, so much so that even after 10,000 pages they still can't figure out where to place channel lines, yet their dream remains unabated.

    Whilst I'm not impressed with Jack's SCT, I am very impressed with his stage routine.

    Notice the total absence of challenge in any of my threads from SCT members other that Jack who got sucked into a stage routine when I played the vulnerable little girl.

    Jack darling,

    you've been teased
    x
     
    #61     Feb 7, 2009
  2. here's why no one form SCT wants to challenge me. This is from my old thread but it needs repeating...

    To break a hypnotic train of thought, you have to think rationally, think critically. However if you want the offer made by the hypnotist, you'll make sure that critical thinking process never takes place. You'll defend the dream tooth and nail like Jedi Jack's followers do.

    Critical thinking looks for substance and proof and works like this...

    Representation + Demonstration = FACT

    So if I say I can use Chi to break a brick in two, and breath deep so you see raise my Chi, then I strike a brick you have determined as solid, and it breaks in two, then you have the proof.

    However to prepatrate a fraud and hypnotize, you have to jumble up the rational thinking process. Here's one simple method...

    1. Make a juicy proposal
    2. Support it with some true facts
    3. Digress with complex information to induce confusion
    4. Link it to a higher level referee
    5. Make yourself superior to the referee
    6. Return to the subject and Conclude with a fraudulent hypnotic statement.
    7. For added effect you can finish with a rhetorical question that assumes the fraud to be true.

    Now this makes for lengthy Jedi posts and confusing links to all kinds of subjects from Camp David to Greenspan now learning to trade. It makes the hypnotist appear to be in the inner circle and a superior advisor.

    All cults rely on hypnotic programming to ensure members cannot ask critical what-if questions for proof or to think outside the box. Instead only critical self analysis is acceptable thus ensuring normal observation is skewed or impossible.

    It works best with higher IQ's, especially perfectionists who have a strong desire for the fraud to be true. Neoxx fits like a glove and responds like a hypnotized cult member.

    It is extremely difficult to get someone in this hypnotic state to return to normal critical thinking. Ask them for a logical reasoning with a live demonstration and the best you'll get even after many years, is Spider. Yet the x3 is swallowed hook, line and sinker.

    Come Jedi Jack, lets have a trade off demonstration. Me making a mess and you demonstrating x3... and I'll out point you on the ES.

    I'm going to go deeper into how anyone can build up a following making a crazy offer and by using hypnosis you'll never have to prove you can do what you say. Perhaps your eyes are beginning to open and you can see why it is that when you criticize Jack, he responds with a 6/7 step response that has little or nothing to do with the question. Jedi Jack is trying it on.
     
    #62     Feb 7, 2009
  3. And herein lies the crux. What is palpable or tangible where the markets are concerned? What makes 'sense' to Jack (The Scarlet Pimpernel), may not be conducive to others.

    Jack is intelligent enough to use, confuse and abuse. I honestly think he should try harder, for his own sake.




    Dackster.
     
    #63     Feb 7, 2009
  4. I used to think that too - that Jack was just one of the worlds most outstandingly bad teachers.

    But then I discovered Jack was a badass. He was using very deliberately structured sentences and paragraphs.

    I knew Jedi Jack was into NLP but what he does in ET is a form of Mesmerizing. I have a great respect for Jack as a performer and would miss his entertaining bluff, but I think it's time to unmask the ET raider.

    Jack converts conversational hypnosis into written form. He's tremendously successful in shutting down the mental "guardian" i.e. rational thinking and critical analysis of his ET devotees.

    Jack uses advanced Stealth Techniques, a kind of mental jujitsu but it only works on vulnerable subjects looking for trading perfection and incredible returns. Jack has stated he wants people who don't do due diligence on SCT - they must believe in him, but he has brilliant ways of phrasing that so suckers close their mind to anything but Jack's instructions.

    Typical advanced steps that Jack uses brilliantly to mezmorize any aspiring trader who questions him are...

    1. Redirect the resistance
    2. Refocus attention
    3. Change topic
    4. Confuse
    5. Overload with new terms/information
    6. Hide the directive
    7. Create an expectation
    8. Finish with tacit authority

    ET has been like a lab for Jack, and the lab rats are totally under his control. For that, Jack, you may take a bow.

    I'll demonstrate Jack in full deceptive flow later.
     
    #64     Feb 7, 2009
  5. Here's a complete example of Jedi Jack working through a 7 step routine like he was using a template.

    Socretes had called Jack's bluff on his use of the DOM. Jack pretends to answer but actually goes into the lions den exposed as a DOM fraud and starts fishing for more victims to convert to SCT. Watch how well Jack uses his 7-Step Template...

    REDIRECT
    "You should check out the sweeps chart and also check out "sufficiency' as applied in information theory on the non probabilistic fork. Two more major clues for you to begin to consider.
    REFOCUS ATTENTION
    We are dicussing making money here. It is a very pragmatic orientation. It is always important to observe how much the guy with the big stacks of chips bends his cards past the point of elasticity.
    CHANGE TOPIC
    It is a good idea for you to express yourself. But it is not a good idea to reject things out of hand that you have not looked at
    CONFUSE
    Lets contast "walls" on the DOM and "cascading". Think about it at least once.
    OVERLOAD
    An ex President of the floor traders of the big S&P said to me in his office: "why are you not getting the spread why do you guys keep giving up the spread all the time?" He also said: "I'm a '58 Buick compared to you; you are red Masseratti's just off the production line (meaning free of faults)". The most I have ever seen him down on an account was 40 million. Any day I have seen him up side down I have been able to note the time and price when he could make it back to even.
    HIDE THE DIRECTIVE
    In trading a person makes the decision to make money or to be right. The decision is simply the choice of focussing on timing or focussing on price.
    CREATE AN EXPECTATION
    I focus on the timing of doing a behavioral event every now and then. This is simply what I call level 1 trading on the ES emini.
    Why don't all those limit orders @ the wall get filled on the turns? Are those guys getting in the market or out of the market?
    FINISH WITH TACIT AUTHORITY
    Wheee.....What is cascading? Who makes money on those terrific cascades?
    Seamless Continuous Trading. It is a blast if there ever was one."


    So if you want to have a blast, this man will take you to the full moon and you can howl the SCT chorus with him.
     
    #65     Feb 7, 2009
  6. Tara,

    Apologies for my misdirection, don't get me wrong, i don't think that Jack is a 'bad' teacher. Jack is not a teacher, he's not a mentor or anything of the like, i think he's more of a 'new fascist'....hahaha!




    Dackster.
     
    #66     Feb 7, 2009
  7. Stunning analysis, Tara! Bis! Bis!
     
    #67     Feb 7, 2009
  8. Perish the thought - but Jack studied psychology before going into NLP and then hypnotism and has used it for personal power.

    New fascist - that's all the rage.
     
    #68     Feb 7, 2009





  9. Jack, the 'Lecter' of, ET.......surely not!? Hahaha!
     
    #69     Feb 7, 2009
  10. Thanks Joe. I actually couldn't give a toss if SCT worked or didn't work. If it's a trading methodology then let it stand or fall on it's merits. Let traders decided if it's for them or not.

    However I draw the line at deliberate deception designed to ensnare traders and waste a lot of their time and money. When I know what's going on then I feel I must point it out and let SCT devotees scrutinise my opinions and decide for themselves.

    It's time for Tara to prepare a welcome for Jack's reappearance.

    Isn't that correct Jack?

    Waken up SCT'ers
     
    #70     Feb 7, 2009