TAPE READING (chat room cont.)

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by shortseller, Sep 30, 2005.

tape reading

Poll closed Jan 28, 2006.
  1. go long at bid

    19 vote(s)
    20.9%
  2. go long at offer

    38 vote(s)
    41.8%
  3. place short at bid (bullet or conversion) reg sho.

    17 vote(s)
    18.7%
  4. place short at offer

    17 vote(s)
    18.7%

  1. pardon me, but can you elaborate that? I'm fairly new to all this.
     
    #481     Aug 20, 2006
  2. Arnie

    Arnie

    Are you saying the only way to trade an increase/decrease in volatilty of a stock is through a synthetic? Could you elaborate?
     
    #482     Aug 20, 2006

  3. ya, it's earnings season. that's where i make my money. volatilty is slowly dyin' tho, compare this crap to 02/04 where u had at least 5 of the most actives [liquid stuff where u can leverage a lot] trendin' all day 10-20%+. all am sayin' that it aint easy no more, a couple of dumb mistakes and u are done, there are not a lots of opportunities, u gotta be very selective. mkt has begun deterioratin' badly just before 05 when vix plunged below 10 and never looked back. bebe was allright of course, same crm..great moves but those are 2 stocks and if u miss one u got nothin'. this is all in perspective.
     
    #483     Aug 20, 2006
  4. chud

    chud

    I'd like to hear an elaboration as well. I don't have a clue as to how Mav's trading options, but I assume it involves complicated math and is not as accessible to the average learning trader as tape reading. I'd be glad to be wrong though.
     
    #484     Aug 20, 2006
  5. belavia

    belavia

    Thanks for the list of books Maverick. Do any of these books deal with particular trading strategies...so far I am trying to track them down.
     
    #485     Aug 20, 2006
  6. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    By trading volatility, I'm refering to how options traders trade. Even if they are directional traders, all option traders are trading volatility in some fashion. You are either trading pure vega in the back months or gamma in the front months. Both require you to make a bet on volatility either through the implieds or the spot.

    That does not mean I do not take directional bets, it just means direction is secondary to volatility. It's not that volatility is easier to trade (many think it is), it's just that it's more lucrative and has more defined risks.

    So therefore if you are going to trade volatility, that would imply that you would be seeking out the most volatile instruments to trade. And stocks simply are not volatile enough.
    I hope that answers your question.
     
    #486     Aug 21, 2006
  7. belavia

    belavia

    Maverick, do you hold options overnight...what is your average holding period.
     
    #487     Aug 21, 2006
  8. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Yes, my positions are continous (constant roll).
     
    #488     Aug 21, 2006
  9. belavia

    belavia

    Can you elaborate on what that means, please.
     
    #489     Aug 21, 2006
  10. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    It means I have a constant position. My positions go 30 to 60 days out but I roll them forward every expiration.
     
    #490     Aug 21, 2006