Taleb: Skin in the Game --- Book review

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Pekelo, Jan 2, 2020.

  1. qlai

    qlai

    Can someone give an idea how the blow outs happened? From earlier readings, I was under impression that his idea was to be long gamma into black swan events and similar concepts like anti-fragile. Was he not practicing what he is preaching?
     
    #31     Jan 7, 2020
  2. destriero

    destriero

    He was down something like 14% over two years. During the internet boom/telephony dereg period.
     
    #32     Jan 7, 2020
  3. Only skin Taleb has in the game is foreskin
     
    #33     Jan 7, 2020
  4. destriero

    destriero


    #uncut
     
    #34     Jan 7, 2020
  5. ironchef

    ironchef

    You just proved Taleb's point sir. They've got nothing to lose, so they take unnecessary risks that do not align with investors'.
     
    #35     Jan 8, 2020
  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thank you for your comments. I have no idea. However, as an old dog trying to learn finance and how to trade I do find his books, ideas very profound and thought provoking and I benefited from them.

    Someone very good at his/her profession is generally not a good teacher/coach.

    A bad teacher/coach do on occasion produce a Lebron James or an Einstein.

    Best regards,
     
    #36     Jan 8, 2020
  7. Sig

    Sig

    If I told you that I've got a guy who is going to manage your hedge fund and there's two ways we can compensate him. Method one he only makes money if you make money and the more money he makes you the more money he makes and if he doesn't make you any money he gets nothing. The other method he gets paid the same no matter how much money he makes for you. After reading "Skin in the Game" (and before reading my post) pretty much everyone would say the first model is the epitome of "skin in the game". Only it turns out in some cases it doesn't actually produce the "skin in the game" benefits, there are big unintended consequences that Taleb ignores. Even if you required the hedge fund manager to tie the majority of their net worth into the fund, as @Frederick Foresight suggested and as many funds have done, you still don't avoid the moral hazard because pursuing a high variance strategy when you're under water is still optimal given that most fund managers are never more than a tiny percentage of AUM. And prospect theory is a real thing, it's hardwired into the human psyche to be risk seeking in losses and a difficult thing to fight even when you're fully aware of it, let alone when you're ignorant and have perverse incentives pushing you in that direction.
     
    #37     Jan 8, 2020
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  8. Skin in the game for portfolio manager is to have their own money in the fund... DUH! I believe @destriero did that for his current gig.
     
    #38     Jan 8, 2020
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  9. ironchef

    ironchef

    If you don't have the majority of your own assets in the fund so that if it does not perform you will suffer great personal losses, you don't have skin in the game. That is why the only mutual fund I ever own is BRK.
     
    #39     Jan 8, 2020
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  10. So then what would be the best way to incentivize optimal performance?
     
    #40     Jan 8, 2020