Taking 410K to 4million by Year End 2010

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  1. neke

    neke

    Weekly Update for week 24/50 ended 06/26/2010

    Bad week, down 19K.Bad week for buying SPY option on the dip. That cost quite a lot this week. The worst trade was shorting BVF on Tue with leverage. That cost 14.7K, the worst loss for the week.

    Going thru my discretionary trades for the last one year. I want to be able to lay down some basic quantitative conditions that have to be met for a discretionary trade to be allowed. I think I have frequently hung myself given too much freedom in how I choose and enter discretionary trades. Automated trading was lacklustre this week.


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    Opening Balance:                	269,136
    Net loss for the week 		      	 18,415
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    Net Balance:                   		250,721
    
    Number of Trades	            	 28
    Number of Profitable Trades    	    	 16
    
    
    Since Inception of Thread   01/10/2010 - 06/26/2010
    
    Opening Balance:                   	410,000
    Net loss(Less Margin Interest)		159,279 (Down 39%)
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    Net Balance				250,721
    
    Number of Trades	           	795
    Number of Profitable Trades        	418
    
    
    BREAK-DOWN BY AUTOMATED/DISCRETIONARY
    
    		Number    P/L            Best Gainer	Worst Loser
    
    AUTO            18         774.30        4,983.20        -2,761.70      
    DISCR           10     -19,196.30     	11,123.20    	-14,734.20     
    
    								
    


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    #721     Jun 25, 2010
  2. Topper

    Topper

    Neke-

    In reference to BVF, I think it may be a good idea to study up a bit on Bollinger Bands because a signal wasn't given yet to open the short.
     
    #722     Jun 25, 2010
  3. Please tell us you're not serious.
     
    #723     Jun 25, 2010
  4. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    And of course Bollinger Bands are the only way to trade this if you want to do it successfully - but you knew this already - thanks for getting the secret to the rest of us!!
     
    #724     Jun 25, 2010
  5. I still strongly feel that probability of success will be much greater if you set up confirmatory technical analysis before deciding to play the dips...

    Resistance/support patterns, fibs, etc....

    Playing from the gut does NOT work.... bottom line...

    You are destined to have big winners and big losers over and over...

    Tight stops if the technicals aren't confirmed by the move will limit the losses
     
    #725     Jun 26, 2010
  6. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    A tip for fading strong moves is to wait a day or two. The day of the news rarely produces good fading opportunities, but the day or two after usually has a decent pullback, profit-taking on moves up and the dead cat bounce on moves down.
     
    #726     Jun 26, 2010
  7. Topper

    Topper

    dbl arrow - i'm not debating that there isn't more than one way to skin a cat but without the tight stop and the high probability entry, a trader is playing with fire. it is in my opinion that in relation to the bb's, BVL hasn't shown weakness and/or confirmation of weakness.

    do you have a different view?
     
    #727     Jun 26, 2010
  8. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    With your first sentence, I have no different view.

    With your second sentence, yes I do have a different view - as to the stock, no opinion, as I do not trade stocks - as to the BB's, I bet neke is not trading based on them so to say he needs to look at them before this trade, is in my opinion idiotic. To imply that because you use them and watch them and neke did not therefore was incorrect in his entry negates the first part of your first sentence above.
     
    #728     Jun 28, 2010
  9. Topper

    Topper

    I see where you're coming from as I don't put a lot of time into explaining my thoughts thoroughly when I post. Basically what I was 'thinking' was that bollinger bands are considered to be a basic 101 t/a tool and my point was that using a basic foundation to determine entries/exits would be better than using a method that creates such a drastic drawdown. But, for each his own.

    However, if interested, I'd be more than happy to show how I would use bb's for that trade once the opportunity presents itself. :)
     
    #729     Jun 28, 2010
  10. DblArrow

    DblArrow

    We could certainly debate about what is basic TA and it would not include many indicators --

    But your assumption that he should use something you consider basic to avoid what appears to you, to be an intolerable draw down, is presuming that he trades based on the same information you do and these kinds of presumptions drive me crazy.
     
    #730     Jun 28, 2010
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