Taking 410K to 4million by Year End 2010

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  1. TGpop

    TGpop

    i'll take the lead as the curious little sh!t.

    How'd this week go neke?
     
    #451     Mar 5, 2010
  2. southall

    southall

    I think you the mean the know it all little sh!ts that crawl out of the woodwork when neke has a losing week.

    Code:
    if( neke.weekly_P&L <-$5000) {
    
    elitetrader.post("neke is a gambler.. his risk level is suicide... he is going to blowup sooner rather than later .. blah blah blah");
    
    } else {
      // silence
    }
    
     
    #452     Mar 5, 2010
  3. neke

    neke

    Weekly Update for week 8/50 ended 03/06/2010

    Negative week, down 2.4K. Should have been moderately positive had I restricted myself to only automated trades.

    The purpose of instituting a max loss per trade (4K for stocks last week) was to contain the urge to average in endlessly, effectively limiting the damage that could be done. I was stopped out twice this week on my trades (both discretionary) and the slippage is not funny. On SNDA closing 6K shares at the market effectively cost me abot 1.2K in slippage on Monday (went contarian buying the early sell-off after the earnings). Will have to determine under what conditions to exit with market orders vs. trying to "work" my way out, with the risk of the losses increasing.

    Will try and add another strategy to my automated arsenal this week-end.


    Code:
    
    Opening Balance:                	240,560
    Net loss for the week 		      	  2,428
    ------------------------------------------------
    Net Balance:                   		238,132
    
    Number of Trades	            	 20
    Number of Profitable Trades    	    	  9
    
    
    Since Inception of Thread   01/10/2010 - 03/06/2010
    
    Opening Balance:                   	410,000
    Net loss(Less Margin Interest)		171,868 (Down 42%)
    ------------------------------------------------
    Net Balance				238,132
    
    Number of Trades	           	343
    Number of Profitable Trades        	159
    
    
    Top/Bottom Discretionary Trades for the week
    
    TICKER			ENTRY DATE/TIME		EXIT DATE/TIME		QTY	PURCHASE AMT	SOLD AMT	GAIN/LOSS	TYPE
    
    
    PCLN			2010-03-02-09-57-45	2010-03-02-15-59-26	1000	241400		244150		2733		SHORT
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    SNDA			2010-03-01-09-33-11	2010-03-01-09-43-20	6000	248949		243780		-5193		LONG								
    
     
    #453     Mar 5, 2010
  4. Good job neke. Seriously, it wasnt a plus week, but 2k is a lot less than the 10k losses you've been taking.. what's this new strategy you mention?..can you tell us more? has it been backtested?

    kon
     
    #454     Mar 5, 2010

  5. here's an idea:
    short appl.
    go all-in at ~219, dump at least 10,000 shares into it, keep half your leverage in reserve.
    and wait until the sell-off bottoms out around, oh, wednesday.
    you'll make about 10-15 a share if you watch the real time charts closely for the micro bounces.
    but that's just what i would do...

    my trades this week:
    SQNM NEM BUCY QCOM CRA UAUA
    oh, and APPL and GOOG.

    that's about it.

    good luck neke. i'll be rooting for you.
     
    #455     Mar 5, 2010
  6. Neke, dont wanna say you are hopeless but you took discretionary trades 2 weeks after you suffered a massive loss and promised yourself to entirely focus on automation? I dont get it or did I misread your post that time?

    I think how some posters praise you is bollocks. Even if you had made 100k in discretionary trades past week it would have been plain wrong and was the worst that could have happened cause it means you took again outrageous risk right after you suffered a devastating loss. Why dont you stick to your own decision to only do automated trading for a while until you have put down IN WRITING a better risk management plan for your discretionary approach...just my 2 cents


     
    #456     Mar 6, 2010
  7. TGpop

    TGpop

    just keep doing what you're doing. 2.4k is a very small down week for an account your size anyway :)
     
    #457     Mar 6, 2010
  8. neke

    neke

    No, I allowed myself to enter discretionary trades before 10am (was 945am two weeks ago). After that my position monitor will not allow any discretionary entries. The purpose of allowing some minutes after the open was to allow for some liquidity before initiating a position I may have seen in pre-market.
     
    #458     Mar 6, 2010
  9. you should really work on giving up averaging completely...

    quick question: does your automated system also average in?
     
    #459     Mar 8, 2010
  10. Q:

    How did you manage to code a profitable automated system without knowing how to manually trade yourself?
    Is your automated system plucked from like wealthlab or something?
    cause to code a profitable system, means you need to relatively know how to trade profitable manually.


    From the looks of your manual trading, I personally feel you aren't really insync with the markets or don't understand it at all.

    PCLN long - Very bad area to Buy,
    In my opinion you were sheeping

    SNDA long - insanely bad idea to buy (mainly cause of the gap down and the randomness associated to it)
    In my opinion it was a random bet

    both ideas follow no rhyme or rule to good trading methology (buy low sell high) how did you manage to code an automated system that makes money?
     
    #460     Mar 8, 2010
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