Taking 320K to 3.5million by Year End 2009

Discussion in 'Journals' started by neke, Jan 11, 2009.

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  1. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    I never did that before until now. Quickly plucked a pesky weed from this thread. Thanks!

    Neke, previously you could say you were in a "slump". But up 30K one week, down 15K the next is no longer defined as a slump; it's a natural pullback in an uptrend :cool:
     
    #331     Jun 6, 2009

  2. That's right. Keep hoping... ups there is that word again.
     
    #332     Jun 6, 2009
  3. And another 13.6k loss in SPY means you've lost over $110,000 on SPY calls and puts. These are not your bag. Did you ever stop to think this is a contrarian indicator? If it's up, it'll be down next, more than likely. Same as if it's down, it'll be up, you chase your trades too much.
     
    #333     Jun 7, 2009
  4. More activity does not equal more profit....
     
    #334     Jun 7, 2009
  5. neke

    neke

    Where on earth are you getting your figures from? Just to set the record right, I went back to my last year and this year trades to calculate how much made through options. For the period covered by last years thread (1/10/2008 - 12/27/2008) I made 358K in options, of which SPY calls/puts accounted for 265K (mostly in the last 4 months of the year). This year, I am down 92K in options, of which SPY calls/puts are down just 2.3K (including this week's loss). So why not ask instead of cooking up figures?
     
    #335     Jun 7, 2009

  6. Well there is some rounding, since you only post your largest wins and losses. If you were to go back on <i>this</i> thread (as I never had interest in following the other one), you have mostly large losses in SPY puts and calls totalling more than 110k now. I'm not saying those are your actual numbers, but I think that that doesn't fit with what you're saying you only lost 2.3k, when your largest losses from specifically spy options have been substantial. While I can accept that you only post the largest winning and losing trades, I seriously doubt you're only down 2.3k in spy options. The losses you've reported in the past are substantial, and you're not doing hundreds of trades a day for teenies. Mostly your position trading intraday, so I'd have to say I don't believe you.
     
    #336     Jun 7, 2009
  7. neke

    neke

    I don't mind responding to reasonable request for information, but when someone decides to fabricate information to glorify unreasoning skepticism, it becomes irritating. Let me give you the benefit of the doubt. Here are the SPY calls/puts (OPTIONS) mentionned in this years thread:

    Code:
    SWGEM	2009-05-06-09-57-34	2009-05-06-10-52-30	20000	43400		36200		-7515		SPY CALL
    SWGEM	2009-05-08-11-51-23	2009-05-08-14-41-13	20000	44600		53800		8885		SPY CALL
    SWGFQ	2009-06-05-09-33-21	2009-06-05-10-00-16	30000	65400		52200		-13672		SPY CALL
    SZCAD	2009-01-15-10-36-40	2009-01-15-14-02-34	10000	15400		22500		6936		SPY CALL
    SZCAJ	2009-01-12-10-08-27	2009-01-12-15-42-35	35000	58138		38500		-20191		SPY CALL
    SZCBD	2009-02-12-13-02-04	2009-02-12-15-01-43	40000	87000		66000		-21621		SPY CALL
    SZCCU	2009-03-02-10-41-48	2009-03-03-13-33-36	40000	94000		71008		-23620		SPY CALL
    SZCCZ	2009-02-20-14-43-46	2009-02-20-14-53-49	45000	153000		166500		12810		SPY MAR CALL
    SZCDC	2009-03-23-14-51-56	2009-03-23-15-40-11	20000	63795		71400		7441		SPY CALL
    SZCDE	2009-03-25-10-37-18	2009-03-25-12-47-16	20000	59000		51200		-8114		SPY CALL
    SZCEJ	2009-04-29-14-33-46	2009-04-29-15-32-31	20000	51600		42800		-9122		SPY CALL
    SZCNH	2009-02-06-12-30-45	2009-02-06-15-39-26	60000	138000		132616		-6313		SPY PUT
    SZCOR	2009-03-05-10-14-11	2009-03-05-11-58-38	20000	55800		71000		14886		SPY PUT
    SZCOX	2009-03-13-10-07-27	2009-03-13-11-18-23	20000	36800		47430		10316		SPY PUT
    SZCPA	2009-03-30-09-45-42	2009-03-30-15-05-15	20000	59200		68000		8486		SPY PUT
    
    The total comes to -40K not -110K like you claimed. Now show the list you used. Everyone knows I post my biggest gainers/losers. My win percentage is high (roughly 60%), but the size of my biggest losers outstrip that of the biggest gainers ( could blame that on averaging down). So why is it difficult to believe that the total loss could be 2.3K even though the total for the top gainers/lossers (let's even say equal count) could be as high as 40K?
     
    #337     Jun 7, 2009
  8. Looks like I was counting SPY <i>AND</i> SPY Calls and Puts. Must have double counted one of the -20k losses. But this is what I get in chronological order from the thread on your SPY trades:
    -20191
    -10030
    10016
    8245
    -7771
    8456
    -6313
    -21621
    12810
    14886
    -23620
    -8824
    13439
    10316
    -12715
    -23958
    7441
    -8114
    8486
    -6313
    -9122
    8885
    -7515
    -7174
    -13672

    Comes to almost -$84k. And that's trading SPY and Spy derivatives.

    Either way, Neke, by continuing to trade those, I don't think you're being very kind to your money.
     
    #338     Jun 8, 2009
  9. What do you gain by [incorrectly] accounting for Neke's losses? Douchebag.
     
    #339     Jun 8, 2009
  10. Nothing, but maybe the passerby who comes across the article puts it into context. If I had to pick one thing Neke's lost on, it's SPY and its derivatives. I know it will help others put his trading into context.
     
    #340     Jun 8, 2009
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