Taking 103K to 1.2million by Year End 2008

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  1. Big D swinging. Congrats, what recession.
     
    #561     Nov 14, 2008
  2. kxvid

    kxvid

    nice trading :D
     
    #562     Nov 14, 2008
  3. Simex

    Simex

    good stuff, keep it up.....

    actually before withdrawal you made 23.6% profit.

    If you make 17% per week for another '6 weeks' (5 clean weeks before Christmas, then trade around Christmas), you'll have 1 million$

    You need a tad over 20% per week to get 1.2 mill.


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    A couple of minutes after posting the above encouragement I received the following PM. Please ban the rude fool:



    snowhite




    Registered: Apr 2008
    Posts: 259
    yo dream
    on pup, you dont even have 4k to trade much less enough to make 1ml


    11-15-08 11:02 AM
     
    #563     Nov 14, 2008
  4. fugly

    fugly

    Neke,

    Can you tell us the ratio of your average win : average loss please?

    Also what percentage of your account do you risk per trade?
     
    #564     Nov 18, 2008
  5. lojze

    lojze

    Hi neke,

    It's actually strange to me, how do you manage to work and trade simultaneously. How does your employee see this?


     
    #565     Nov 19, 2008
  6. neke

    neke

    Ok I took some time to calculate the statistics, since I have no software that generates those.

    For the period 1/13/2008 till date, the average winning trade is $2999, while the average loser is -$3624. That is however not very meaningful, knowing the balance on account has ranged from 103K to above 500K: that obviously determines the position size, and the range of returns have gone from -88K to +103K (incidentally both top and bottom trades took place the same week). So far I have a 60% win rate.

    How much do I risk per trade? The average cost per stock trade has been 60% of account, while for options it has been 18%. I determine how long I keep a loser based on each trade (although I mentionned 10% of account for stocks). I refrain as much as possible from placing hard stops. Most of the time I would be long gone from a trade before a maximum loss threshhold could be reached. I believe it takes the trader, and not just some arbitrary stop loss, to determine when a trade is not going well.
     
    #566     Nov 19, 2008
  7. neke

    neke

    It is like surfing the web at work. I realise I still have to get my regular work done. BTW, I do only 3-5 trades a day. So it is not really as intense as you would think. When I watch for a trade, it is normally with the intention of holding for the day or overnight.
     
    #567     Nov 19, 2008
  8. fugly

    fugly

    Hi Neke,

    Thanks for your reply your statistics are very interesting and an eye opener for me.
    I had imagined your wins would be atleat 3 times your average loss.

    Well goes to show you learn something everyday .. lol ... thanks.

    I was wondering though, you said risk 60% of your account per trade is this correct which would mean if you get stopped out you;d be down by 60%?

    Is this correct?

    thanks
     
    #568     Nov 20, 2008
  9. neke

    neke

    Nope, unless the stiock goes to zero while I am holding it long (impossible intra-day, certainly not for the stocks I trade). Moreover, the actual amount used for each trade depends on the perceived risk. I could use 200% to buy SPY intra-day. In spite of increased volatility in the market, it is hard to see SPY move 10% intra-day, and harder still to have me be on the wrong side and do nothing while it goes against me 10%. Even if this were to happen, the account would be down 20% (not 200%!).
     
    #569     Nov 20, 2008
  10. neke

    neke

    In (SPY @ 78.20). There's got to be a rebound!
     
    #570     Nov 20, 2008
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