Taking 103K to 1.2million by Year End 2008

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  1. neke

    neke

    There are certainly too many of my losing trades that went down 2K and still came back up. I meet that a lot in my contrarian plays. To me it still boils down to reward/risk over the expected time-frame. I have a hard 10% (of account) limit on my stock trades. I know that is way more than most people could handle. If my exposure is right in the first place (and consistent) I do not usually fear the size of the loss. It is when I add on to losing positions most of the terrible things happen. I understand that if you are trading with leverage (say 10:1, 20:1) as in futures, it is inevitable you must have a hard stop loss, so as to be able to play another day.

    It is hard to set stop rules on options, given the rate they decline. Moreover I do not like placing market orders on options, because of the slippage. In my opinion, my exposure (percentage of account used) effectively constitutes my maximum stop loss. If I use 10% of account on an option I intend to hold for multiple days, I should be prepared to lose that much. In effect, if I intend to hold overnight, I make sure my exposure is small.
     
    #311     Jul 13, 2008
  2. neke

    neke

    My trades are normally based on the premise that over a given time-frame (normally till end of day) the reward/risk justifies the trade. I only put a hard stop for stock when my account is threatened (10% rule). Otherwise I judge the situation and take action when I think my initial expectation was wrong.

    Having said this, some of my strategies do not have the "edge" I thought they did - the results show it. Add to that negative impact due to slippage, excess leverage, adding to losers, commissions, taking profits too soon while allowing losers full time, and some rule violations, and the impact on my account is obvious.
     
    #312     Jul 13, 2008
  3. neke

    neke

    When I said earlier had I stuck to my two top strategies (out of more than a dozen) my account would have been up more than 100%, I said so using actual trade results. As of the end of last week, my top strategy made $54,795 (53.4%) while the next made $26,737 (26%). My computation of greater than 100% is based on the effect of compounding the individual gains (in the absence of the other strategies).

    It hasn't been a good year so far, but I am determined to get a decent return (1.2million is probably out of the question) for the remainder of the year.
     
    #313     Jul 13, 2008
  4. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    Regarding taking profits too soon, do you simply pick a point in time that you're pleased with the existing profit and exit the trade at the going rate? Or do you choose a target in advance? In the past I've often changed my protective hard stop to a tight trailing stop once my trade is reasonably profitable, because I want to exit at least close to the current profit level, but also want to ride it as far as possible. This has worked well for me on high volume options. I don't get out at the top, but I often get more than I initially bargained for. I'm currently trading AAPL and it's very liquid, tight spreads, and moves in solid trajectories up and down, so I feel good about setting a pretty tight trailing stop. But I've certainly lost spare profits to serious slippage on less liquid options.
     
    #314     Jul 13, 2008
  5. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    Can I please have your top two strategies :p
     
    #315     Jul 13, 2008
  6. bbqbbq

    bbqbbq

    lol i pay u $50 for ur 100% working stretegy
     
    #316     Jul 14, 2008
  7. neke

    neke

    Weekly Update for week 27 ended 07/19/2008

    The bleeding continues, down 9.6K (8%).

    The biggest one was from BIDU (BIDU CALL) on Monday that sent me down 7K. That was pre-mature. Other than that, it was program bugs on Tuesday that sent me down another 3K (Kept buying and selling a certain option at market, incurring commission and slippage, until I stopped it).

    I hope the worst is over, and I can plan towards a recovery.

    Code:
    
    Opening Balance:               	    	119,020
    Net loss for the week 		         -9,606
    ------------------------------------------------
    Net Balance:                   		109,414
    Number of Trades	            	 39
    Number of Profitable Trades    	    	 19
    
    Since Inception of Thread   01/13/2008 - 07/19/2008
    
    Opening Balance:                   	102,615
    Net gain (Less Margin Interest)		 11,799
    ------------------------------------------------
    Balance Before Withdrawal:            	114,414  (Up 11.5%)
    Cash Withdrawal				 -5,000
    ------------------------------------------------
    Net Balance				109,414
    
    Number of Trades	           	632
    Number of Profitable Trades        	352
    
    Expected Balance at this time to be on track for Year-End Target : 
    				       387,264
    
    
    Status:			       Behind Target		(Based on adjusted balance before withdrawals)
    								
    
     
    #317     Jul 18, 2008
  8. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    When you say "program bugs" are you referring to automated trading?
     
    #318     Jul 18, 2008
  9. magicz

    magicz

    Hope is one of the deadliest sins in trading. analyze your trade and know your risk.:D
     
    #319     Jul 18, 2008
  10. Neke, are you sure your broker isn't trading against you?
     
    #320     Jul 18, 2008
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