Take a good look where spending leads.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. pspr

    pspr

    That's an interesting concept. If one should receive welfare, food stamps or any other government entitlement payment that didn't require you paying into a program like Medicare or Social Secuity, you lose your vote for the next 12 months.

    Makes sense to me. But then so does securing the border and deporting illegal aliens.
     
    #51     Nov 12, 2012
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    We gradually slow the rate of government spending growth until it's at a comfortable level at GDP X (which keep in mind is also typically growing). We also gradually raise revenue, via taxes and growth, until it's at a reasonable level at GDP X. Thus, deficits and debt fall. But we should never again employ the methods of, say, a Reagan or a Bush, i.e., lowering taxes and increasing spending--bad outcomes follow.
     
    #52     Nov 12, 2012
  3. You do know Tsing will be here shortly, right?

    This like a Godzilla vs. Gamera movie:D

    Man, I love Godzilla when I was young!

    Anyways, to take Tsing side on this post, we must land the plane without it reaching terminal velocity. I believe we have already reached terminal velocity. How can you slow us down?
     
    #53     Nov 12, 2012
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    This year's budget deficit is expected to be $900 billion, a significant improvement. I believe our debt/GDP ratio is also coming down, no data at hand at the moment (but who needs it, that's just "fact checking").
     
    #54     Nov 12, 2012
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I leave lots of threads. I'll happy yield a point to you, if you ever make a salient one.
     
    #55     Nov 12, 2012
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    We have. But not with this many takers and so few givers (which is the same in Greece and the point of the thread).
     
    #56     Nov 12, 2012
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Austerity isn't "anti-Keyensian" or Austrian or anything else. It is a forced policy imposed as a result of Keynesian following. I'm neither cheerful or gloomy. I no longer give a damn and am preparing accordingly. But I will take some small, hollow satisfaction when it comes to pass and those who advocated going down this path cause the ruin they have sowed.
     
    #57     Nov 12, 2012
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    There's no more landing of any plane. There is only preparing for the crash landing, and this is done at the individual level. The intent of my OP was to show the risk of extremist behavior that will come from where we are going. That's all.
     
    #58     Nov 12, 2012
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Having a deficit of $900 billion is NOT austerity. Even if you taxed your arch enemies the"rich" some 88%, you still wouldn't close that but $150B or so. And this doesn't remove the massive overhang of debt, nor consider future obligations to entitlements.
     
    #59     Nov 12, 2012
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    It is when it's been much higher.
     
    #60     Nov 12, 2012