Retail Spot Forex Traders, I have tried and tried to learn how to discretionarily trade. I am an avid systems trader and have constantly battled with the changing market characteristics rendering my systems ineffective. When trying to place the market in a can, systems must be so loose that they give away what the market tries to give them. I am pleased to announce that I have added a "discretionary component" to my trading and have survived for 81 days. I know this is not a true test, but I hope to be able to adapt to all market conditions and I feel my plan is well thought out. I still trade a long-term positive interest carry system, but I have learned to goose it with some scalps. The purpose of this thread is to point out that it is possible to derive enough information from your systems to make additional discretionary trade decisions with. Keep it small and concentrate on drawdown and not yield and you should be able to fine tune your systems to yield a bit more. Some of the basics such as range, lagging indicators, different time frames would be shocking to you, if you just realized its HOW you use these basic bellweathered principals that makes the difference. Michael B.