11/20/2002 Trade #1 Skipped the first system trade which was short at yesterdayâs close of 898.00. This trade wouldâve resulted in a loss of 2.75 points. Iâm skipping these because they are continually losing this month. Trade #2 Went long @ 900.75 and finally got a little trend to follow. Held until trailing stops hit at an average price of 912.00 for a gain of (11.25 x 2 x 50=$1,125). A good trend is 20-30 points, but Iâm not complaining. ACTUAL Daily gain/(loss) $1,115.20 (inc. 9.80 of commish) Monthly gain/(loss) ($4,384.70) â4.385% Daily ES Points = 11.25 per contract Monthly ES Points = (17.25) per contract SYSTEM Daily gain/(loss) $830.40 (inc. 19.60 of commish) Monthly gain/(loss) ($745.80) â.0746% Daily ES Points = 8.50 per contract Monthly ES Points = 9.00 per contract
One of those signals was also on October 10th !!! I am saying this in retrospect because I was not trading these systems then, but it does look that when combined together they give you a big predictive power. Well, we hit 918. I am waiting for my MOC sell order to be filled.
Thanks, pretty rare event. I skipped first trade is the reason I beat it. No trades yet this morning. I need to get a gap trade going, because too many of these are following through lately. Waiting for the breakdown during the noon hour to enter short.
11/21/2002 Trade #1 Went short at an average price of 928.33 around lunch time, and was forced to cover at 934.00 for a loss of (5.67 x 3 x 50=($850.50).. Darn market would not quit going up today. Trade #2 Went long @ an average price of 932.00 and held for an average price of 934.91, for a gain of (2.91 x 3 x 50=$436.50).. Trade #3 Went short again @ an average price of 928.75 and covered @ 933.50, for a loss of (4.75 x 2 x 50=$475.00).. This was the last half hour of day. I used two contracts initially to enter trades and then added a third as the price moved against me. This combined with taking profits on trade #2, which if held according to the system wouldâve resulted in a loss, gave me a $1,000 advantage over the system. I took profits on trade #2 because the price wouldnât budge and the tick was at its peak. I overrode the system because things werenât acting normally and I was going to get out and quit, but decided to take trade #3 to get back to profitability. This third trade resulted in getting in at almost the worst time again and I knew I was screwed. Did the retirees come out of the wood work and start buying again? ACTUAL Daily gain/(loss) ($924.90) (inc. 49.90 of commish) Monthly gain/(loss) ($5,309.60) â5.31% Daily ES Points = (7.51) per contract Monthly ES Points = (24.76) per contract SYSTEM Daily gain/(loss) ($1,924.90) (inc. 49.90 of commish) Monthly gain/(loss) ($2,670.70) â.2.67% Daily ES Points = (14) per contract Monthly ES Points = (5) per contract
I was looking for the profittaking to hit in the afternoon also. But it just never did. I have no clue what tomorrow will bring. On the one hand we broke through a lot of overhead resistance today. On the other hand, we're getting pretty extended on the upside.
So you took this trade not because it was worth taking but because you wanted to get your money back? --Db
It was a trade from my system so I should've taken it. Since things weren't acting normally up to that point, I was going to call it a day with a small loss, but not wanting to miss out on a redeeming trade I followed the system. From now on I'm not trading against a trend day, it's not worth it. That will become an addendum to my system rules. I'm going to start trading the gaps as well--if the first 30 minute bar is broken in the direction of the gap, I'll wait for a 50% pullback and enter in its direction. My testing showed no profitability of entering a tick above the 30-minute bar, but getting a better price should make it profitable. So two addendum's today to my rules.
Be careful of too many addenda. I've been down that road. If you had entered on a breakout of the 30m bar and left it alone, you would have done quite well. --Db