switching gears to Price Action via SLA

Discussion in 'Journals' started by gears, Feb 16, 2014.

  1. Redneck

    Redneck

    An important note on the above comment

    In order to correctly and accurately identify the signs (read price)

    We must first remove our opinion / bias

    Else it's way too damn easy to see what we want

    Which may..., or may not..., be what price is actually saying

    RN
     
    #121     Mar 28, 2014
  2. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    I disagree, though it's not my trade and not my money. If the trade is entered at the red circle, price is still going against you. If entered at either dot, price is moving in your direction and flowing in the desired direction.

    With a smaller interval, of course, there may be a turning point notable within the circled bar, but 1m is about as small as I recommend to someone who's just learning price behavior.
     
    #122     Mar 28, 2014
  3. Redneck

    Redneck

    Not on the bars each dot is referencing - price is still going up - and against the desired short

    Too much... and unnecessary - heat (risk)

    eta - I did say the purple dot was a good price to enter at - just 1 bar too early

    it is both

    RN
     
    #123     Mar 28, 2014
  4. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    The entry is triggered at the level of the dot if and when price reverses and moves in the desired direction. If price continues to rise, the entry is never triggered.
     
    #124     Mar 28, 2014
  5. Redneck

    Redneck

    regardless the entry used... the dot is referencing the wrong bar

    Lets not confuse things any more than they already are

    RN
     
    #125     Mar 28, 2014
  6. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    The entry is made at the level of the purple dot in the bar to the right of the dot. If gears wants to enter somewhere else, that's his choice, but I suggest that he back- and forwardtest such an entry before trying it in real time.
     
    #126     Mar 28, 2014
  7. Redneck

    Redneck

    And I suppose the red dot entry is made two bars to the right of the red dot

    lol

    been a tough day i imagine

    RN
     
    #127     Mar 28, 2014
  8. gears

    gears

    Another session of just observing price. Some context for 1/14/14 is that the prior morning wasn't a bastion of activity. Price topped out at 3566 and just hung there for quite some time. There was a push down and a slight push up but mostly price hung out in a small (6-9 point range) for two and a half hours. And then the skies opened up and price kept falling and falling and falling - all the way down to 3493 (70 points). With this day, price would either continue, rally back up toward 3560 or just hang out in a consolidation manner. Overnight, price rebounded to the 3510 range, but fell back down to 3500 and had been steadily moving up again to 3520 just prior to the open. The mean of that big drop is the 3525 area.

    1. At the open, price pretty much popped up past the previous HH in a parabolic manner.
    2. There was some pause and then a pretty decent RET within the bar. But then price popped back up but seemed to butt up against the 50% area. Tighter DL drawn.
    3. Price definitively went through the down move 50% level but quickly retraced. DL tested.
    4. Price is back under the down move 50% area and dropped quickly - through the up move from the open. Buyers and sellers not agreeing on transactions at that level. At this point, the DL from the overnight is QUITE a distance away.
    5. The drop down was quick and price turned right around and headed back up and retraced again for another attempt at 3525.
    6. 2nd trip back to the up move 50% area. This time the tighter DL is also compromised but price is struggling to stay there. Price is quite vertical.
    7. DL broken and a short would have been triggered. SL drawn and is holding.
    8. HL occurs with vertical price and the SL is tested.
    9. 2nd attempt to make a LL fails and is followed by price rocketing back up in a parabolic move.
    10. Yet again, price reaches the coveted area and as quickly retraces.
    11. And then a huge push occurs and price makes it all the way to 30. Will it stay or did buyers give it all they have and now a cascade down will occur?
    12. Price just kind of hangs out for a while - not really moving up or down. Everyone is settling in to this new level for a few minutes. Tighter DL is checked out.
    13. DL is compromised and the 50% area of the 1001 bar is visited. But after such a huge bump up, that’s to be expected. Price bounces off that level though. Will price make a new high?
    14. Yes it will and with it, a new DL.
    15. After the push up to 30, price again hit some resistance to get past 33.5. There hasn’t been a lot of retraces, so the hesitancy makes some sense.
    16. Price popped up to 37 but almost before my software could register the price, it went back down to it’s open. Not convinced that price can stay there. Not sure what will happen next, but it looks like that price was rejected and immediately the fanned DL was compromised.
    17. While price is struggling to match the 3537 area of a few minutes ago, it isn’t really going down either and makes two subsequent HLs.
    18. Another pop up and immediate retrace, but this time the newly fanned DL holds for the moment.
    19. DL broken and price trying to get to the LSL area.
    20. LH and another run south but without a lot of gusto.
    21. Struggling to make a HH and keeps being pulled south but not as far as it did just after the DL cross.
    22. Previous high is met, but not exceeded.
    23. Price drops back down to and through the last congestion area but not as far as the area after the DL was crossed or the LSH.
    24. Price breaks through 38 with a bang after hanging around a small range for 20 minutes. New DL drawn.
    25. Things are less frantic after the big pop up at 1041. Price is well-inside the DL.
    26. Price got up to 44.50 but there weren’t a lot of buyers around to keep it there. Most of the crowd seems more comfortable in the 41-42 range, but there hasn’t been a big push in either direction.
    27. As price approaches the DL, there hasn’t been an attempt at a HH in 8 minutes - price has been moving mostly sideways with a bit of a down trend.
    28. And then a HH attempt occurs and yet again, the DL holds.
    29. It is clear as to which side is in “charge” with yet another HH and price moving further and further up and away from the DL. Getting closer and closer to 58 which was such a magnet yesterday. And so it continues…
    I felt much more in sync with the market during this session aside from the hubbub after the open. When things settled down a bit just prior to 1000, the movement was actually pretty straightforward. I’m not saying that I was predicting anything, but I was “seeing” the nuances and wasn’t as surprised by movements. At this point, I’m looking forward to my next session. It’s nice to view price without thinking about trades or where I’d get in or where I wish I had gotten in or if I’m in the green or the red. Hell - my brain is a little fried, so this is actually fun for the time being!
     
    #128     Mar 29, 2014
  9. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Yes, only lower than an entry made off the level of the purple one.
     
    #129     Mar 29, 2014
  10. Redneck

    Redneck

    Good stuff…, and the skill (picking up on the nuances) you want to continue honing

    It does take concerted effort (focus) to pick up on these / follow along - without our opinion / or predicting

    Please be sure to take the time to rest - it very important to go into each session 100%

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    Later will come the exploiting of these nuances…

    And the;

    Holding when they pan out

    or

    Exiting quickly when they don’t

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    Side Note;

    As for being in sync.., don’t be surprised / frustrated when you’re not

    Mkt has several states (not only through a single session - but also over months / quarters / years / decades / cycles..., & various announcements) – you need exposure to…, time to assimilate / be able to identify / operate – in each

    Times when you can’t readily relate to what’s occurring…, will be the times you’re most vulnerable (predisposed) to reverting back to predicting / forming an opinion BS

    Resist the temptation…, simply observe and learn the nuances presented in whatever distinct environment present

    They are there for the exploiting

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    Foundation of a trader

    Mkt is uncertain..., each trade's outcome is uncertain

    And no one ever knows

    Here's to you embracing and flourishing in both :)

    RN
     
    #130     Mar 30, 2014