%% BUT IF i had a stock making 10%, ytd/+,as in op example; get a great dividend. Or to use a concrete example, not long or short MNST,but they did over 30% ytd,+ no dividend. NOT a prediction, try to get >> 10%, because sometimes they gap against you or me
%% Well with SPY/S&P 500 average 12% i would swing something that gets better than 10%. gaps happen with swings long or short. Hope this helps; if not you will see what i mean when it happens............