SWIFT ban begins

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by terr, Feb 26, 2022.

  1. Zwaen

    Zwaen

    World power equilibriums will shift, with a weakening Europe and Russia. America and China win. No thoughts on the Emirates, though they possess that black gold offcourse.
     
    #101     Feb 27, 2022
  2. NoahA

    NoahA

    This is where we disagree. The people in Russia can't do anything to Putin because look at how easy it is for him to block all the demonstrators. It has to be the rich people who start to lose their access to the world that have to put the pressure on Putin.
     
    #102     Feb 27, 2022
  3. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Correct we do disagree.

    Only need to look to the U.S.S.R. satellites as examples, of course once the dam broke too.
     
    #103     Feb 27, 2022
  4. themickey

    themickey

    Twas but a love bite, normally applied to the neck but.
     
    #104     Feb 27, 2022
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  5. terr

    terr

    "SWISS PRESIDENT CASSIS TELLS TELEVISION IT "VERY PROBABLE" THAT SWITZERLAND WILL FOLLOW EUROPEAN UNION ON MONDAY IN SANCTIONING RUSSIA AND FREEZING ASSETS"

    That is pretty big, if it happens. LOTS of oligarchs will be affected.
     
    #105     Feb 27, 2022
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  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Next day after school, took the bowl of food and a broomstick.
    I set the bowl down and pushed it over with the broom.
    Once bit, twice shy.
     
    #106     Feb 27, 2022
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  7. Looks like we'll then see more Swiss bankers being roughed up by Russian mobsters.
     
    #107     Feb 27, 2022
  8. RedSun

    RedSun

    Those dumb politicians do not know that there are other ways to do business outside SWIFT. Just like what Jamie Dimon said. There are several work-arounds to avoid SWIFT.

    What this move does is to drive Russian transactions outside West banking systems. This make those transactions hard to track. I'm not saying this is underground, but same meaning.

    If you do not have a credit card and do not have a bank account, can you still pay to buy lunch, an Apple iPhone or a new car? Sure you can.

    Companies can even do barter trade. No money exchanged.
     
    #108     Feb 28, 2022
  9. terr

    terr

    Those "dumb politicians" realize that all this creates friction. ENORMOUS friction. As an analogy, if you're cut off internet, you can still fax things. But it creates friction. Friction reduces efficiency. Reduced efficiency cuts into profits. The more friction, the less efficiency, the profits evaporate.

    Russian economy will crater due to these sanctions. It was very far from being healthy to begin with. This will destroy it. Putin is "в глубокой жопе" and the rest of Russia is there with him. And will continue to be in it until they topple Putin, apologize, and pay reparations to Ukraine.
     
    #109     Feb 28, 2022
  10. US and EU could impose a limit or ban export or import certain goods (such as grain, agri-products, fruits, chips,... anything that could be used to support the Putin's I-wanna-to-be Tzar effort) or create quotas for quantity, impose special tolls, taxes, banning freight or transport vehicles, freeze or seize freights, assets, bank accounts
    or even call for a general strike for a week in Russia. it'd occur probably when more body bags are coming home.
    as long as materiel support from the West keeps streaming in to sustain the war, Putin's war is going to end like the Afghanistan's war.
     
    #110     Mar 1, 2022